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To: "'Amanda Vizedom'" <amanda.vizedom@xxxxxxxxx>, "'Ontology Summit 2011 discussion'" <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Brand Niemann" <bniemann@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:55:09 -0400
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I saved the Tweets before they disappear so you can get some of the essence of ODISSEE.

 

ralphtq Ralph Hodgson 

Other things of the non-semantic kind discovered at #ODISSEE - Frame Fractals Art - http://www.fractalsinmotion.com/

5 hours ago 

Description: Simon Spero

sesuncedu Simon Spero 

The paper I mentioned - Vickery, Brian (1997). "Ontologies" in Journal of Information Science, 23 (4) 1997, pp. 277-286 #ODISSEE

20 hours ago 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

@stephanet They aren't up yet, but have been promised. I'll tweet the link if I get it and Lowell hasn't done so himself. #ODISSEE

20 hours ago 

Description: stephanef

stephanef stephanef 

Where can we have access to the slides of #ODISSEE ?

20 hours ago 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Now: wrap-up discussion for #ODISSEE. I think most folks have hit overload, but there are many loose threads hanging... to be cont'd?

20 hours ago 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Now up: Germaine Forbes, Beth Huffer on the JPDO Net-Enabled Test Environment. Another talk about actual ongoing work. Hurrah!#ODISSEE

21 hours ago 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

During the talk most based on a real-world, ongoing, mature effort, the eager advocate for One Ontology left, rather than listened.#ODISSEE

21 hours ago 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Serious sprint by Alan Belasco to get through it all! Upside: shows how relatively far ahead USAF Enterprise #Ontology work is.#ODISSEE

21 hours ago 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

So much packed into this presentation. I wonder whether the substance is clear to folks not familiar with USAF #ontology efforts?#ODISSEE

21 hours ago 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Now up: Lt Col Shawn O'Day and Dr. Alan Belasco, talking about USAF information delivery process in which #ontology is a key part.#ODISSEE

22 hours ago 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Dr Maybury's talk has lots of good ideas, insights. But some distance between this vision and ground view of AF #ontologyefforts! #ODISSEE

23 hours ago 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Maybury: challenges of AF data interop/integration - need automation (scale, etc.), real-time, cross-org... #ontology required. #ODISSEE

23 hours ago 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

RT to #ODISSEE Post-lunch restart with Keynote by Dr. Mark Maybury, Chief Scientist, USAF. Topic: "Metadata Matters:#Ontology and Autonomy"

23 hours ago 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Dr. Maybury giving a quick reprise of DoD Net-Centric Data Strategy and role of Metadata in it (not quite to #ontology yet...) #ODISSEE

23 hours ago 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

LTC Mandrick has too many good points, examples to tweet! Hoping that his presentation is provided for later reference. #ODISSEE#ontology

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

LTC Mandrick on scoping #ontology: depends on customer needs. Yes, & we can respect that *&* support extending & integrating later#ODISSEE

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

LTC Mandrick: seeing OO of the OODA loop, terrain models, as#ontology creation. Ah, the memories (of ontologizing IPB, etc.)!#ODISSEE

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Next up: LTC Bill Mandrick talks about "A Repeatable Process for#Ontology Creation" Interested to see what he's got! #ODISSEE

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Good: UCore-SL extensions that Navy R&D needed & made. Add how needs arose, get real contribution toward #ontology best practices. #ODISSEE

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Where to get UCore-SL without a CAC: https://ucore.gov (provided by current speaker, Christopher Kirkos) #ODISSEE #ontology

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Next up: an ongoing efforts session: UCore-SL in Navy R&D#ODISSEE #ontology

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Comment I meant to get to but didn't: shared #ontology != shared vocabulary. Many DoD frustrations come from focus on latter.#ODISSEE

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Now on to Lowell Vizenor, talking about UCore SL. #ODISSEE#ontology

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Beth Huffer: the value of shared #ontology in a complex integration project is in mediation/integration, not imposition on data. +1#ODISSEE

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

I wish more of #ODISSEE were actual discussion of actual, ongoing projects. So far, the other talks have not been very useful in context.

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Next up: Jim Schoening, talking about Standard Upper #Ontology#ODISSEE

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

A last critique: An #ontology, like a scientific model, often must be realist *and* take a particular view in order to be usable. #ODISSEE

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

This shows in #domain naivete, and in slippage from examples of badly done mapping to conclusions about all mapping. #ODISSEE#ontology

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

There's a tendency among those who have worked in a few domains & use cases to view the rest of the world as only equally complex. #ODISSEE

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

For example, Barry says that we need only one weather #ontology. But why insist that weather is a sufficiently unified domain?#ODISSEE

13 Apr 

Description: Simon Spero

sesuncedu Simon Spero 

@ajvizedom Garry Merrill pay's attention to the man behind the curtain http://bit.ly/gHjnp1 #ontology #ODISSEE

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Barry Smith said earlier, "One #Ontology per Domain." Later he noted that the question arises: "But what is a Domain?" No answer...#ODISSEE

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

... But between Barry Smith's critical observations & his prescribed single-#ontology solution are many unsupported leaps. #ODISSEE

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Barry Smith is correct that there much bad #ontology, atrocious mapping, and untrained ontology developers creating OWL silos...#ODISSEE

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

#ODISSEE Day 2. Barry Smith arguing his One #Ontologyparadigm: semantic interoperability requires 1 upper ontology & 1 ontology per domain.

13 Apr 

Description: Simon Spero

sesuncedu Simon Spero 

#ODISSEE Barry Smith jumping back and forth between controlled vocabularies and ontologies without signalling

13 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Current spkr: history, last 10 yrs of sem tech, in which he seems to claim first for many things actually done <= 10 yrs earlier!#ODISSEE

12 Apr 

Description: Daniel Yacob

ethiopic Daniel Yacob 

"Some things have to be believed to be seen" @ralphtq at#ODISSEE

12 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

GEOSS use case: cross-community & cross-domain semantic mediation of earth observation data - my kind of fun & hard!#ODISSEE #ontology

12 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

SPARQL used to get at implicit knowledge, given OWL limitations. Clever, but loading KR into query lang still a worry. #ODISSEE#ontology

12 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

GeoSPARQL defined in RDF/OWL/SPARQL -- another case of partial content KR in SPARQL, though more self-aware than avg.#ODISSEE #ontology

12 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

... and wouldn't ya know, HIGHFLEET talk halted by computer failure. Skipped ahead to BBN GeoSPARQL talk. #ODISSEE#ontology

12 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Now up: Bill Anderson of HIGHFLEET, talking about access control, provenance. Started out great re: what metadata is and isn't.#ODISSEE

12 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Still, so many critical efforts lacking staff familiar with lesson learned. Some good stuff, too, but some *headdesk*. #ODISSEE#ontology

12 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

These were interesting. Definite progress from old decontextualized KR , or alignment as top-first mapping, views. #ODISSEE #ontology

12 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

First presentations this morning related to JPDO and DoD DCMO projects, challenges, current approaches in Enterprise Semantic Svcs. #ODISSEE

12 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

We need these events. Cyclic pain, but more connections between semantic newcomers and old hands, lessons learned! #ODISSEE#linkeddata

12 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

Happy that #ODISSEE and similar events are happening - bringing together folks working Big Semantic Environments & Implementations...

12 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

For the puzzled: #ODISSEE = http://bit.ly/fVPV5n

12 Apr 

Description: AJ Vizedom

ajvizedom AJ Vizedom 

At #ODISSEE. A needed workshop, but also a reminder: road to anywhere littered with reinvented square wheels.

12 Apr 

Description: mark a babcock

markababcock mark a babcock 

At #ODISSEE

12 Apr 

Description: http://twitter.com/phoenix/img/tiny-timeline-bird.png Older Tweet results for #ODISSEE are unavailable.

 

 

From: Amanda Vizedom [mailto:amanda.vizedom@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:14 PM
To: Ontology Summit 2011 discussion
Cc: Peter Yim; Brand Niemann
Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] [ontolog-invitation] Ontology Summit 2011: Communique draft review session - Thu 2011.04.07

 

It's nowhere near a report, as Brand put it, but live-tweets from the workshop, by me and a few others, can be found under the #ODISSEE hashtag twitter stream.  Lowell Vizenor and Beth Huffer have promised to make sure the presentations are made available.  

 

Amanda 

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 09:55, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes, indeed!

BarrySmith (who championed ODISSEE) was the original proponent of this
year's OntologySummit2011 theme.

Several of those who were there at ODISSEE will be at the
OntologySummit2011 Symposium next week -- LeoObrst co-chairs the
Symposium (with RamSriram of NIST), and both DennisWisnosky,
GeorgeThomas and BillAndersen (who were speakers at ODISSEE, LeoObrst
too, actually) are among the invited panelists for the Tue 2011.04.19
symposium (day-2) program.

I am really looking forward to it. See you then.

Thanks & regards.  =ppy
--


On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Brand Niemann <bniemann@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Peter and All, I think [the] Summit would benefit from hearing a report from
> this meeting that represents an activity that has obviously "made the case
> for ontology" - see http://ncor.buffalo.edu/ODISSEE/
>
> Brand



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> = *REMINDER* =
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>  [2]  Communique input process (from here onward and during the
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