Welcome, Carlos ... and thank you for the referral, Martin. (01)
All, (02)
I am posting this exchange as it may be of interest to others who are
contemplating participation in this "Quantities and Units of Measure
Ontology-based Standard" initiative (or point people to it). (03)
I also want to let people know that, despite the fact that I am behind
on getting the proceedings of our Jun-19 session posted, and in the
creation of the new dedicated mailing list (due to some work-related
emergencies which I must attend to first), they are still on my
priority list, and will be attended to very soon. ... I'll let
everyone know as soon as they are in place. (04)
Regards. =ppy
-- (05)
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Peter Yim<peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello Carlos,
>
>
> Thank you for the message. To get engaged, you might consider the following,
>
> (a) review earlier transactions among other community members
> regarding this UoM ontology standard subject matter in our archives,
> particularly the following items at ...
>
> * http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2009_06_19
> * http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2009_Communique
> * http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2009_Symposium#nid1VUV
> *
> * http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/2009-06/threads.html
>
> 2. consider joining the Ontolog community - see:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1J
>
> 3. we will be setting up a dedicated mailing list for this "Quantities
> and Units of Measure Ontology-based Standard" initiative fairly soon.
> I will make a note of your interest, and will include you as a
> subscriber. Further activities and progress will appear on that list,
> once that has been initialized.
>
> Feel free to ping me any time if you have any further question.
>
>
> Regards. =ppy
>
> Peter P. Yim
>
> Co-convener,
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> http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/
>
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> San Mateo, California, USA.
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> -- (06)
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Carlos Pedrinaci<c.pedrinaci@xxxxxxxxxx>
>wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>> Could you please let me know how to proceed in order to join/contribute to
>> this work?
>> Many thanks,
>> Carlos
>> --
>> Dr. Carlos Pedrinaci
>> Knowledge Media Institute - The Open University
>> Walton Hall, Milton Keynes, MK7 6AA
>> United Kingdom
>> Tel: +44 1908 654773
>> Fax: +44 1908 653169
>>
>> The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exempt
>> charity in England & Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC 038302). (07)
>> On 1 Jun 2009, at 15:27, Martin Hepp (UniBW) wrote:
>>
>> hi carlos,
>> you should get involved in this activity with your work on units conversion.
>> if you have any questions, please contact peter yim (cc), he coordinates the
>> ontolog work. peter can also point you to all ontolog resources.
>>
>> best
>> martin
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> martin hepp
>> e-business & web science research group
>> universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen
>>
>> e-mail: mhepp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217
>> fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620
>> www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group)
>> http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal)
>> skype: mfhepp (08)
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Progressing a Units Ontology - virtual
>> session
>> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 23:02:29 +0100
>> From: David Leal <david.leal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: Ontology Summit 2009 <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: Ontology Summit 2009 <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> Dear Peter and others,
>>
>> I hope to attend the telecon and participate in the work.
>>
>> I strongly agree with Ed's recommendation that we consider the International
>> Vocabulary for Measurement (VIM)
>> http://www.bipm.org/en/publications/guides/vim.html. It is important that
>> things in any ontology for quantities and units are related to the things
>> defined in this document - which has the advantage of being on the Web,
>> unlike most ISO standards!
>>
>> On the one hand the document is authoritative, but on the other hand there
>> are difficulties with the language used, which creating an ontology may
>> clarify.
>>
>> For example, the definition of "quantity value" is "number and reference
>> together expressing magnitude of a quantity". This definition suggest to me
>> a "quantity value" is some sort of data structure (i.e. "number and
>> reference together") which describes a "magnitude of a quantity". But we
>> also have:
>>
>> NOTE 1 According to the type of reference, a quantity value is either
>> — a product of a number and a measurement unit, or
>> — a number and a reference to a measurement procedure, or
>> — a number and a reference material.
>>
>> The first item in this list is a very different sort of thing. We usually
>> assume that the "product" of a number and a length unit (say) is a
>> particular length. Getting all this tied down with an ontology is a worthy
>> task.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> David
>>
>> ==================================================
>> David Leal
>> CAESAR Systems Limited
>> registered office: 29 Somertrees Avenue, Lee, London SE12 0BS
>> registered in England no. 2422371
>> tel: +44 (0)20 8857 1095
>> mob: +44 (0)77 0702 6926
>> e-mail: david.leal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> web site: http://www.caesarsystems.co.uk
>> ================================================== (09)
>> At 12:14 29/05/2009 -0400, you wrote:
>>>Peter,
>>>
>>>you wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am writing to ping everyone, one more time, to find out:
>>>>
>>>> 1. who is interesting to participate in getting the said Units of
>>>> Measure ontology effort going.
>>>
>>>I am interested because I think a basic reference ontology for
>>>'quantity' is needed. According to the International Vocabulary for
>>>Measurement (VIM)
>>> http://www.bipm.org/en/publications/guides/vim.html
>>>'measurement unit' is one class in that ontology, and it is a subtype of
>>>'quantity'. Further, standardized instances of 'measurement unit'
>>>belong to a 'system of measurements' which is intimately related to a
>>>taxonomic decomposition of 'quantity'. So I think the 'basic quantity
>>>ontology' is inseparable from an 'ontology for units of measure'.
>>>
>>>> 2. who is willing to provide some level of leadership to get this
>>>> effort off the ground.
>>>
>>>It makes sense that NIST should lead -- the NIST participants should
>>>take that up offline.
>>>
>>>> 3. who would be joining us if we do run a virtual panel session on
>>>> this on Thu 2009.06.11
>>>
>>>I will try to attend, but I have a likely conflict from 1300-1500 EDT.
>>>
>>>> 4. if you are joining, and would like to be a panelist, please provide
>>>> a title and an abstract of what you might share with in in a 10~15
>>>> minute brief.
>>>
>>>I have said my piece above. I would rather listen to others.
>>>
>>>> 5. besides PatCassidy, who else has (access to) a UoM related
>>>> ontology, that he/she can upload to the OOR sandbox and some other
>>>> publicly accessible ontology repository? (if the latter, please advise
>>>> where the repository is.)
>>>
>>>I have a sketch (UML diagrams with definitions) built for another (now
>>>dubious) project, which I will upload.
>>>
>>>Surely this must also have been addressed in Cyc and DOLCE and BSO.
>>>
>>>-Ed
>>>
>>>--
>>>Edward J. Barkmeyer Email: edbark@xxxxxxxx
>>>National Institute of Standards & Technology
>>>Manufacturing Systems Integration Division
>>>100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8263 Tel: +1 301-975-3528
>>>Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8263 FAX: +1 301-975-4694 (010)
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