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Re: [ontology-summit] Lessons Learned from Virtual Organizing for the On

To: "Doug Holmes" <dholmes@xxxxxxx>
Cc: Ontology Summit 2007 Follow-up <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:36:56 -0700
Message-id: <af8f58ac0707141736l3107b0d9gaf288318e40fba6f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Great!... Thanks.

The "mix-up" -- crossed usage of the [ontolog-forum] and [ontology-summit] lists -- was somewhat unfortunate. We were hoping to drive the heavy traffic to the [ontology-summit] list, leaving [ontolog-forum] on a 'mild traffic' kind of state. It didn't work out as some never grasp that segregation, probably being too enthusiastic about the matter all together. Great demonstration that these are spontaneous, and at times 'emergent' activities and behavior at play. I think that was a good thing, despite some collateral damages.

The result: ~400 messages were exchanged on [ontology-summit] and ~1200 were  exchanged on [ontolog-forum].
... we ended up losing quite a few [ontolog-forum] members, but then, gained even more members too, because words about the summit, and about Ontolog did get out.

Regards.  =ppy

On 7/14/07, Doug Holmes <dholmes@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Peter,
         Here are my slides in Ken's format [also posted to the list]; sorry
for the delay - I actually did a semi-superficial review of the list
from Jan 18 to April 30 to confirm my opinion; that's where the part
about the integration of the two comes in. I had thought that a lot
of the "forum" discussion was actually on the "summit" list, but
actually they both seemed to act as a single list [at least in my
mind] during that period.  Anyway, here is a redundant copy.

> Thank you, Doug.
> Perfect! ... that will flow well from Ken's piece.
> I'll look forward to your slide.
> So glad you are covering the mailing list discourse portion of the
> exercise. You could delve into it a bit too.
>  [ I was exchanging e-mail with Chris Menzel and was hoping he could
> join us  too (and cover that segment). Turns out he is in Germany now,
> and couldn't make it. ] ... therefore, your insights there is
> definitely very complementary to all the input we have received so
> far.
> Thanks.  =ppy
> --


> On 7/12/07, Doug Holmes < dholmes@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Peter,
>>         I've been consumed all this week with the things that we
>> moved up
>> from next week, no slides yet.  My main impression of the "virtual
>> organizing process" was the surprising range of interests that we
>> only discovered near the end of the process when we looked at the
>> survey results.  I suspect that is due to the "social" nature of
>> [all] email lists;  a small number of voices tend to dominate the
>> discussion [not, necessarily because they are dominating persons, but
>> because they tend to articulate the main positions well and have the
>> respect of the larger audience.  I think that tends to focus the
>> discussion [good thing] on a fairly narrow range of topics and
>> obscure [possible bad thing] introduction of the "broader"
>> perspective.  I guess that's a general aspect of virtual organizing
>> in this way.  Anyway, I can make a slide to this effectg - if you
>> think its germane [and correct] or just mention it.  Let me know your
>> preference.
>> Adios,
>> Doug

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