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From: "Peter F Brown" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 01:07:50 +0200
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Too many too's... ;-)    (01)

But seriously, are we looking for a Gartner Group-style 4 word mission
statement to make it sound good, or do we want a formulation that
actually does mean something and that we can agree on? Brevity does not
always equate with clarity: if I have to choose to sacrifice one, it
would be brevity.    (02)

Peter    (03)

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Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Framework Draft Statement
fortheOntology Summit    (04)

>  "a formal description of terms that represent concepts and
> relationships in as
> chosen subject matter of interest"    (05)

is too long, too much of a mouthful of too many words.    (06)

Debbie    (07)

On 4/20/07, Uschold, Michael F <michael.f.uschold@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Its almost good enough... But an ontology is more than just about
terms.
>
> How about:
>
>  "a formal description of terms that represent concepts and
> relationships in as
> chosen subject matter of interest"
>
> Mike
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter F Brown [mailto:peter@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 3:08 PM
> To: Ontology Summit 2007 Forum
> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Framework Draft Statement for
> theOntology Summit
>
> I agree: we've worked with the definition "a formal descriptions of
> terms and the relationships between them" [1] as being good enough to
> know what we talking about when we're talking about what we're talking
> about...and "good enough" should be good enough.
>
> Peter
>
> [1] From 'OASIS Reference Model for Service-Oriented Architecture',
p17,
> see
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/19679/soa-rm-cs.pdf
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris
> Welty
> Sent: 19 April 2007 20:23
> To: Ontology Summit 2007 Forum
> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Framework Draft Statement for
> the Ontology Summit
>
>
> Surely after 15 years we can do better than "specification of a
> conceptualization"?  Isn't it time we put that one to rest?
>
> -Chris
>
> Obrst, Leo J. wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > Here is our draft statement about the Ontology Framework. We invite
> > you to consider and discuss this -- now and in next week's sessions.
> > We intend this to be an inclusive characterization of what an
ontology
>
> > is. Inclusive: meaning that we invite you to consider where you and
> > your community is with respect to these dimensions. If you have
> > concerns or issues, restatements or elaborations, please let us know
> > now and next week. This will shortly be posted on the Framework Wiki
> page:
> >
>
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_FrameworksFor
> Consideration.
> >
> >
> > Thanks much,
> >
> > Tom Gruber, Michael Gruninger, Pat Hayes, Deborah McGuinness, Leo
> > Obrst
> >
> > _____________________________________________
> > Dr. Leo Obrst       The MITRE Corporation, Information Semantics
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> > Fax: 703-983-1379   McLean, VA 22102-7508, USA
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> >
> >
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