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Re: [ontology-summit] categorizing "ontology"

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From: "Teller, Jacob" <jteller@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:10:57 -0500
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I have just finished reviewing the referenced OMG document, specifically chapters 9 and parts of 10.  This is not what I was referring to.  This document seems intended to generate the mappings between various approaches, WITHOUT developing a group consensus metamodel of what is or can be in an ontology  I used italics because I understand, as would anyone who has read the definition as adopted in chapter 9 of this document that there is a very wide variety of opinion as to what constitutes an ontology.  Therefore I say again, break out into the most elemental, i.e. atomic parts those constituents of  ontology, and create an inclusive, abstract metamodel describing the many relationships/constraints existing between these elemetns in whatever language is preferred. [Because of the wide variety of perspectives involved, I am sure that many elements would be hotly contested as to their inclusion/exclusion and these could be treated with appropriate caveats in the metamodel.]  Then we can debate to endless delight as to what constitutes the completeness, richness etc.;  and then we can map each of our candidates to this [agreed on metamodel] in terms of what the candidate contains, and what it does not.   

 

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From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cory Casanave
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:31 PM
To: Ontology Summit 2007 Forum
Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] categorizing "ontology"

 

ODM (http://www.omg.org/docs/ad/06-05-01.pdf) does a good job of providing meta models for multiple ontology languages (such as  CL, OWL, Topic Maps) as well as mappings between many of them.  It does not, however, normalize those meta models into common elements or "atomic structures" and, as Bill says, does not say anything about the capabilities or use cases for those languages.

-Cory Casanave

 


From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill Andersen
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:26 PM
To: Ontology Summit 2007 Forum
Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] categorizing "ontology"

This exists and it's called ODM, or at least until something better comes along.  But ODM really only says things about documents formed from sentences in this or that logical language and doesn't inform the discussion of "ontology" as meant by Steve, Peter, and Leo.

 

On Jan 18, 2007, at 14:31 , Teller, Jacob wrote:



Suppose there existed a meta model of “Ontology” that created and linked all of the atomic structures that an ontology  could/should have according to the consensus of the Ontolog community.  Then this meta-model would be capable of having mappings to all of those local “Ontologies” that are in reality thesauri, or conceptual models, or taxonomies, or use cases, etc.  These mappings would clearly show what is and IS NOT included in the local offering and this then becomes a relatively straightforward set of comparison points for what one is referring to as “I have an Ontology.”


 

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