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Re: [ontology-based-standards] collaborating with the ISO 15926 working

To: Onno Paap <onno.paap@xxxxxxxxx>, Ian Glendinning <ian@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ontology-based-standards@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:15:25 -0800
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Dear Onno, Ian and All,    (01)

Thank you for the positive response from the ISO 15926 team. We shall
keep you in the loop when we start planning/organizing further
activities for the "ontology-based standards" initiative.    (02)

An immediate priority for the community, as most of you are aware,
will be the planning for OntologySummit2013 (which rolls out roughly
between early January to mid April 2013.)  A community brainstorm
session for OntologySummit2013 will be announced soon. I look forward
to the involvement by those who are on this message routing to help us
shape that agenda, and possibly help pick a summit theme that would be
synergistic to our "ontology-based standards" agenda as well (if
appropriate.)    (03)

Let's all stay in touch.    (04)

Thanks & regards. =ppy
Peter P. Yim
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?PeterYim
--    (05)

On 11/14/12, Onno Paap <onno.paap@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Peter and Anatoly,
>
> Thank you for the invitation.
> We have discussed it in the T25 (the name for our standards team of ISO
> 15926 is ISO - TC 184 - SC4 - WG3 - T25)
> We didn't resolve to an action item for this but either the team, or Ian
> Glendinning or I will take this upon us.
>
> The ISO 15926 is most certainly not trying to "import" other standards
> content, but will rather point out trusted ontologies with which it will
> form federations for technical data exchange and storage. So this
> cooperation with the Ontology-based Standards group is also exactly our
> wish.
>
> Onno
>
> PAAP, Onno +31 23 5432116 (office) +31 6 21625149 (cell) --
> Linkedin<http://www.linkedin.com/pub/onno-paap/1/966/454> -- Time
> zone: Central Europe    (06)


> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Further to the discussion towards the end of the 2nd session (Thu
>> 2012.11.08)  of the OnytologyBasedStandards mini-series,
>> ref. (Thu 2012.11.08)
>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2012_11_08#nid3HZM
>>
>> Alex Shkotin suggested we engage the ISO 15926 folks, and Anatoly
>> Levenchuk (being a part of that community) has agreed to help us
>> follow-up on the matter. Anatoly has promptly sent a message to that
>> effect (thanks, Anatoly!), which I am forwarding below, so we can have
>> an open conversation on the matter here on this list.
>>
>>
>> To the ISO 15926 folks ... (on behalf of the initiative) may I take
>> the opportunity to invite you to join us in this collaboration to over
>> the Ontology-based Standards agenda forward. ... Besides a virtual
>> session featuring some of the latest developments in your Standards
>> work, what other forms of collaboration can be effective (as far as
>> this Initiative is concerned,) now that we have a growing list of
>> collaborators? ... I realize Anatoly has suggested some in his message
>> (below) already.
>>
>>
>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>> --
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Anatoly Levenchuk <ailev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:20 PM
>> Subject: RE: [ontolog-invitation] Moving Forward with Ontology-based
>> Standards - mini-series session-2 - Thu 2012.11.08
>> To: Onno Paap <onno.paap@xxxxxxxxx>, ian@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Cc: Victor Agroskin <vic5784@xxxxxxxxx>, Peter Yim
>> <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>, Matthew West
>> <matthew.west@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>
>> Dear Onno and Ian,
>> Just now was ended 2nd online session of Ontology-based Standards
>> mini-series (
>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2012_11_08
>> ). At the end of this session it was questions about work of ISO 15926
>> community. I guess that Onno and Ian can give to ontologists community
>> short
>> presentations on current work for formal ISO 15926 development (ISO
>> process) and methodology and maintenance efforts of JORD project of
>> PCA and FIATECH.
>>
>> Especially it was requested for brief Part 8 (mapping to OWL) review.
>> Similar initiative (usage OWL like tools exchange format for OMG SBVR
>> ontology with attempt to preserve richness of SBVR) was mentioned in
>> today's session --
>>
>> 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologyBasedStandards/2012-11-08_Ontology-based-Standards-II/The-Date-Time-Vocabulary-and-Mapping-SBVR-to-OWL--MarkLinehan_20121108.pdf
>> from slide 17.
>>
>> But I think that people in ontology community can be interested in our
>> effort to move to high-level ontology representations (from Part 2
>> graphs to
>> templates, then to patterns and declaring mappings as a first class
>> artifacts).
>>
>> Special interest of general ontology community can be to concept of
>> WIP (work-in-progress with slow ISO standardization and quick
>> industry-level standardization).
>>
>> I think that you can tell also about multiple tools that support ISO
>> 15926 and examples of usage of it by industry, this is not "dead
>> language"!
>>
>> Sorry, I already write too much to present :-) Sure, you can tell
>> about all that you consider important about ISO 15926 and ignore my
>> suggestions. May be Victor and Matthew can add something.
>>
>> I guess that Peter Yim will arrange all logistics of this ISO and JORD
>> standardization efforts presentations to ontologists community.
>> Please, reply to him.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Anatoly
>> ---
>>
>    (07)

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