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From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 06:44:00 -0400
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I attached my recent exchange with Martin Hepp on GoodRelartions (GR)
below, as promised.    (01)

Regards. =ppy
--    (02)

---------- original message ----------
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Schema.org is not OWL-based (was Re:
Toward Human-Level Artificial Intelligence)
To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Hassan Aït-Kaci <hak@xxxxxxx>    (03)

Simon, John and All ... I had an exchange with MartinHepp ref
GoodRelations just yesterday.    (04)

I will post that to this list after tomorrow ... I'm sure some of you
will find that interesting.    (05)

Regards. =ppy
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Can you share some stats on GoodRelations, please, Martin?
To: "mfhepp@xxxxxxxxx" <mfhepp@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>    (07)

Wow, this is super, Martin! Once again, that is quite an accomplishment.    (08)

I obviously can't say all that in my talk, but (With your consent) I
will post this exchange to the [ontolog-forum] list, so this
information gets archived and can be shared by more.    (09)

Thanks and regards. =ppy
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On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:05 PM, mfhepp@xxxxxxxxx <mfhepp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> okay, here are a few lines ;-)
> What is GoodRelations and why it may have some value:
> 1. I think GR is the first real Web Ontology. It was the first the first OWL 
>1 DL ontology, to my knowledge, that was broadly adopted by anything between 
>50k and way more Web site owners
> - for commercial reasons (non-toy, non-academic, non-pilot)
> - from their own budget (companies actually paid for getting it into their 
>Web applications).
> FOAF and SIOC can probably make similar claims.
> 2. GoodRelations is now the official e-commerce data model for schema.org and 
>thus promoted by Google, Yahoo, Bing/Microsoft, and Yandex.
> 3. It is an academically sound ontology, rooted in the works of 
>Uschold/Gruninger/Guarino etc., basic notions of OntoClean.
> 4. While there is an immediate benefit of using GoodRelations in the area of 
>Semantic Search Engine Optimization, its actual impact may reach much further, 
>because it can be used for facilitating ANY information interchange in 
>e-commerce scenarios for ANY industry and ANY stage of the value chain, from 
>raw materials to retail to after sales support and disposal.
> 5. I think GR became successful, because
> - it makes (mostly) ontologically clean conceptual distinctions (it separates 
>legal agents from places, e.g.)
> - i put a lot of effort into deploying and documenting it properly (not just 
>pushing and RDF/XML file to the Web, but building and maintaining a whole 
>ecosystem, including Wiki, examples, tools for producing and consuming data, 
> 6. Features
>         • One vocabulary for many targets: GoodRelations markup will be 
>honored by both traditional search engines (Google, Yahoo; Bing and Yandex 
>expected to follow) and novel linked data / Semantic Web applications.
>         • Multi-syntax: GoodRelations data can be published as RDFa in 
>HTML, Microdata, RDF/XML, Turtle, dataRSS, NTriples, OData, and GData syntax
>         • Minimal impact on page size and loading times (only ca. 1500 
>bytes of additional markup)
>         • Company and store information, including opening hours
>         • Detailed pricing, including list prices, quantity discounts, and 
>price ranges
>         • Payment and delivery options and individual fees
>         • Product models ("datasheets"), product variants, consumables, and 
>spare parts
>         • Variable level of detail: Simple cases are simple, complex 
>scenarios are fully supported.
>         • Suited for B2C & B2B scenarios
>         • Suited for any industry, from consumer electronics to industrial 
>parts and components or services
>         • Supports wishlists and tendering
>         • Can be combined with Facebook's Open Graph protocol
> Thanks for the honor of mentioning my work!
> Best
> Martin
> -----------------------------------
> martin hepp  http://www.heppnetz.de
> mhepp@xxxxxxxxxxxx          @mfhepp    (011)

> On 26 Apr 2014, at 18:41, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Dear Martin,
>> I need a liitle help from you ...
>> I am putting together a short talk for next week's OntologySummit
>> Symposium[1] ... with that I am announcing my retirement too (I
>> am phasing into my retirement right after this OntologySummit.)
>> I want to cite your work and GoodRelations, as one of those that
>> made the greatest accomplishments and making huge public impact,
>> from this field in recent years (along with projects like Siri,
>> Watson, schema.org, etc.) ... and conclude that there is a bright
>> future in front of all of us.
>> can you share a few encouraging nuggets about GoodRelations.
>> I need something really quick, and anecdotal ...
>> ref. [1] http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014_Symposium
>> Thanks in advance. =ppy
>> --
>> Peter P. Yim
>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?PeterYim    (012)

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