John B, Rich, Duane, and Kingsley, (01)
JB
> I am beginning to think it is time for a web system designed by
> scientists, not programmers.</rant> (02)
RC
> Good luck with that! My experience with scientists writing specs for
> implementation by programmers shows that they don’t have a clue what
> is needed to make a rigorously effective web site. (03)
I agree with both of you. I worked at IBM on research projects,
on development projects, and on teaching computer science to
developers. There is indeed a huge difference. A pithy summary
of what happens: (04)
* PL/I was a camel designed by a committee of programmers. (05)
* Algol 68 was a camel designed by a committee of computer scientists. (06)
My own observation: (07)
* The XML-based notations for the Semantic Web were designed by
a committee of programmers and computer scientists who didn't
understand each other's requirements or intentions. (08)
DN
> Xml is more for back end to back end. JSON is for more back end to front end. (09)
That's a good summary of the way things turned out. But it's better
to design different kinds of front ends and back ends for different
purposes. (010)
KI
> JSON is for programmers that don't want to deal with all the issues
> that swirl around XML. (011)
XML has too many nooks and crannies inside those angle brackets.
It's very tempting to stuff in just one more option. (012)
KI
> Nothing above (re. JSON or XML) stops these programmers making the
> eternal mistake of attempting to reduce semantics to syntax, repeatedly (013)
Yes. The Semantic Web got tangled up with syntax. (014)
John (015)
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