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Re: [ontolog-forum] Is Big Data intrinsically an invasion of privacy?

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From: "Gillman, Daniel - BLS" <Gillman.Daniel@xxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:23:30 -0500
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See CIPSEA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIPSEA), the Confidential Information Protection and Statistical Efficiency Act.  This is used by the US federal statistical agencies to protect the data we collect and share among us.


There’s a difference between privacy and confidentiality.  Privacy, from the statistical agency point of view, mostly protects the dissemination of personally identifiable information (PII), such as Social Security numbers, etc.  Confidentiality goes further in trying protect any kind of disclosure of information about some individual (person, business, etc).  For instance, uncovering the fact that an individual might have had a cancer diagnosis is a disclosure, and this could be used against him/her, such as an insurance company (well, at least before Obamacare).


The worldwide statistical community have spent much effort to understand and try to prevent disclosure risk.  The so-called mosaic effect, the increased disclosure risk inherent in combining data from multiple sources, has increased the need to arrive at some solution.


It is probably true that once data sets get complex enough, it is impossible to prevent all disclosures.  Therefore, the problem is most likely one of policy rather than a property of the construction of data sets.



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From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Bottoms
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 7:23 PM
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On 1/19/2014 3:50 AM, K Goodier wrote:



Also in the federal context in the U.S., we promote the protection of personally identifiable information as defined in NIST Special Publication 800-22. So even if you consent to the collection of PII, at least in this context, you have a right to expect some safeguarding of your personally identifiable data.  I am part of a group that discusses these issues in the public federal big data meet up.

I would think that we also need some legislature to go along with privacy definitions. Else each state, corporation, municipality or museum will have their own guidelines.

Further, we need definitions that cover law enforcement policies. Imagine an officer stops you for running a red light.
1. He asks for your driver's license and registration and is in the process of citing you for a traffic violation.
2. Next he asks politely if he can see your phone to see your phone. You refuse, citing the need for a warrant.
3. He asks you to step out of the car and searches you, taking your phone.
4. He tries to search the phone but stops to ask you for your password(s). You give it to him.
5. He looks at all your contacts, sent text messages and sees that you once communicated with a felon who is now in a gang.
6. He requests a dispatch to search your house as your are suspected of being in a gang.

How do we control the shenanigans without ring-fencing the limits of privacy for each of the contexts above? How does a privacy definition vary for school students? What about for trade school students where there is no "in loco parentis"? This sounds like an opportunity for an ontology that defines relations that have been put into force for each of the states. Unless that is, we have a working Federal definition

-John Bottoms
 FirstStar Systems
 Concord, MA USA

k goodier


On Jan 15, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 1/15/14 2:51 PM, Duane Nickull wrote:

It is an invasion of privacy if you do not consent to have your data used as such.  In most cases, people willingly signed over those rights.  Check the ToS on Facebook for example.


Secondly, opting in is not the issue, opting out is.


There is also the concept of context and traverse ability.  I may have your weight recorded but in a manner where it is not directly attributable to you without further correlation.  Cookies are a good example of this.


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Privacy is self-calibration of one's vulnerability on or offline.

"You" not "Them" decide to lock your front-door at night, for instance.

Any situation in which "You" aren't the calibrator of "Your" vulnerability is an invasion of privacy.

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