|From:||William Frank <williamf.frank@xxxxxxxxx>|
|Date:||Wed, 23 May 2012 10:54:33 -0400|
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Christopher Menzel <cmenzel@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
That has not been my experience (see below, for the most recent recurring example). And to me, this is even a moral issue; without truth independent of what people believe, there is no reason for any seeking after the truth, no meaningful concept of honesty, etc. Accepting logical inconsistency enables authoritarianism. Only, having seen this relativistic view expressed here by now several people, and not effectively discussed in email format, I an more inclined to just lightly mention it when it comes up. I have found that the simple inconsistency of the relativistic view of truth does not seem to hit home with those who take this view. I really wish I knew why.
No, of course they don't. I had changed the subject, to a different more amusing, less distressing question. You are right, facts are not vague, but they are intractable, in the sense that we must acknowledge that we might always be wrong. We are in complete agreement about this matter. I know that subtlety and humor are not easily conveyed in emails.
Right, and that is exactly what I was suggesting: the world is the totality of facts, and in fact, things are reified facts.
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