Peter Yim wrote:
> Ken,
>
>
>> [KL] I'm familiar (one might say *too* familiar) with the IPR rapids that
>W3C
>> and OASIS continually attempt to navigate.
>>
>
> [ppy] great! ... maybe you can give us some advice.
>
>
>> [KL] If you believe the Ontolog policy
>> covers enough ground, I would drop the reference to the OASIS deprecated
>> policy.
>>
>
> [ppy] good point. Homest answer: I am not sure ... but I trust the
> (then) OASIS process and policy (actually, I trust Jon Bosak, who was
> heavily involved with crafting it then, and of course, UBL chair,
> enough to default to that.) ... In your opinion, do you think the
> Ontolog IPR policy covers enough ground to allow us to safely drop the
> reference to the OASIS deprecated policy?
>
> Besides, it's not just the IPR policy, though, it's the entire process
> that I am certain, is much better thought out than what we could have
> done, at the time, for Ontolog (and, remembering that we were, after
> all, a UBL TC spin-off then.)
>
> There are other things that are ready for a face-lift too, like moving
> the reference to OPL v1.0 to a Creative Commons v3 license ... but, I
> (personal opinion) don't want to open this can of worms, as I see
> moves like that are only cosmetic, do not add value, and may create
> potential tensions that may just hurt the prevailing collaborative
> spirit without advancing our cause by one iota. ... Therefore, I
> suggest we hold-off until something breaks (which hasn't happened yet)
> or circumstances arise that forces us to revisit the matter.
>
> (01)
I agree. The main focus should be on creating ideas that are worth
"stealing" if they were not freely available. (02)
Ron (03)
> Thanks & regards. =ppy
> --
>
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Ken Laskey <klaskey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Peter,
>>
>> I'm familiar (one might say *too* familiar) with the IPR rapids that W3C and
>> OASIS continually attempt to navigate. The previous OASIS policy was found
>> to be insufficient; hence, the new one. If you believe the Ontolog policy
>> covers enough ground, I would drop the reference to the OASIS deprecated
>> policy.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>
>
>
>> On May 6, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Peter Yim wrote:
>>
>> Ken,
>>
>>
>> [KL] To which
>> of the three choices I listed in my previous email do our processes point?
>>
>> [ppy] that would be your: (1) refer to the policy in place when
>> Ontolog was reconstituted.
>> The clarification I put in pegs the default to the OASIS IPR Policy in
>> place as of 23-Sep-2002.
>>
>>
>> [KL] Also, the OASIS IPR policy requires "At the time a TC is chartered, the
>> proposal to form the TC must specify the IPR Mode under which the Technical
>> Committee will operate."
>>
>> [ppy] I believe this is only put in place (by OASIS ... Jamie, or
>> someone familiar with this, please correct me if I got it wrong) AFTER
>> OASIS has offered a choice of IPR modes (which wasn't in place until
>> after 23-Sep-2002.)
>>
>> Anyhow that is moot because, Ontolog ONLY defaults to the OASIS policy
>> and process IF there is no clearly specified ONTOLOG policy and
>> process, but we (Ontolog) actually do have a clearly specified IPR
>> Policy, as in http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32
>>
>>
>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>> --
>>
>
>
>
>> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Ken Laskey <klaskey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> I'm not familiar with the processes defined in our reconstitution. To which
>> of the three choices I listed in my previous email do our processes point?
>>
>> Also, the OASIS IPR policy requires "At the time a TC is chartered, the
>> proposal to form the TC must specify the IPR Mode under which the Technical
>> Committee will operate." See
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/who/intellectualproperty.php#tcformation. Should
>> Ontolog declare under which mode it intends to operate? If not, it is
>> unclear which parts of the OASIS IPR policy come into play.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>
>
>
>> On May 6, 2008, at 9:08 AM, Peter Yim wrote:
>>
>> Thank you very much for pointing that out, Ken.
>>
>> I will make the following clarification, changing the bullet in question -
>>
>> To:
>> "when in doubt, IPR matters relating to the [ontolog-forum] default
>> to the OASIS IPR policy (effective as of 23-September-2002; in
>> accordance with the processes defined in our reconstitution of
>> September 2002.)"
>>
>> From:
>> "when in doubt, IPR matters relating to the [ontolog-forum] default
>> to the OASIS IPR policy (in accordance with the processes defined in
>> our reconstitution of September 2002.)"
>>
>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>> --
>>
>
>
>
>> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 5:54 AM, Ken Laskey <klaskey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Note that OASIS revised its IPR policy effective 1 October 2005. See
>> http://www.oasis-open.org/who/intellectualproperty.php. It should be made
>> clear whether we (1) refer to the policy in place when Ontolog was
>> reconstituted, (2) explicitly acknowledge the current policy, or (3) default
>> to changes in the OASIS policy as these become effective.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>
>
>
>> On May 5, 2008, at 6:24 PM, Peter P. Yim wrote:
>>
>>
>> o when in doubt, IPR matters relating to the
>>
>> [ontolog-forum] default to the OASIS IPR policy (in accordance
>>
>> with the processes defined in our reconstitution of September
>>
>> 2002.) (35)
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
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