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Re: [ontolog-forum] (PLEASE!!...) tasteful tags...

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From: Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:29:58 -0800
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Tasteful Tags brings us full circle back to my point about the contextual
aspects of ontology.  The flawed wine example that Protégé uses is again an
illustration of how many "tags" or "labels" are purely opinions and an
assertion specific to that context.  Wine that tastes "best" to one person
cannot be considered the "best wine" without some form of qualification of
where that assertion comes from.    (01)

Question:  Where does this stop?  If a rock solid?  To me it is but to a
neutrino it is not.  To water it might not be.  To my hand, yes.    (02)

Right and wrong are also values people place on things from their own
context.  This unfortunately results in much disruption in our world today.    (03)

Duane     (04)






On 3/8/07 2:24 PM, "Lisa" <lisadawncolvin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:    (05)

> --- Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> Why should their value be different from that of
>> any other tags? Do you presume that there is a
>> notion of a 'tasteful tag', and that tags which
>> exhibit tastelessness should be treated as
>> second-class?
> 
> This brings up an interesting point regarding reasoning about information from
> tags. Over 10 years
> ago, when I was part of a team mapping a lexicon to Wordnet, there was concern
> that some of the
> synsets contained derogatory terms mixed in with value-neutral terms within
> the same synset. We
> ended up introducing various relationships which addressed these linguistic
> values. Perhaps more
> simply, we can create a collection of tags that are considered to be
> "judgment" tags - or create
> some other way of representing properties (such as "taste" "user community",
> etc.) on tags - which
> raise the notion of tags from indexing and nomenclature to a more
> semantically-expressive system.
> 
> Lisa
>  
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