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Re: [ontolog-forum] ONTOLOG: Database and Ontology Series

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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:43:07 -0000
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Dear Ed,    (01)

Thank you for you offer to give a talk to the ontolog forum as 
detailed below. It looks very interesting to me, and is 
particularly close to my own interests.    (02)

Could I suggest April 12th for your talk, subject to any comments
from other members of the forum?    (03)

Regards    (04)

Matthew West
Reference Data Architecture and Standards Manager
Shell International Petroleum Company Limited
Shell Centre, London SE1 7NA, United Kingdom    (05)

Tel: +44 20 7934 4490 Mobile: +44 7796 336538
Email: matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx
http://www.matthew-west.org.uk/    (06)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Barkmeyer [mailto:edbark@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 09 January 2007 23:22
> To: West, Matthew R SIPC-DFC/D21
> Cc: Peter P. Yim
> Subject: Re: ONTOLOG: Database and Ontology Series
> Matt,
> Greetings for the New Year!
> I see that our paths cross once again.
> you wrote:
> > You are receiving this e-mail becuase you have volunteered (or been
> > volunteered) to give a talk to the ONTOLOG Community of Practice.
> "been volunteered" is correct in my case.  Steve Ray (my 
> boss) thought I could 
> usefully contribute.  I looked at the participants list and 
> saw yet another 
> grouping of the usual suspects: John Sowa, Leo, Elisa, Bill, 
> Adrian and Ralph 
> are all people I have worked with at some time in the last 5 
> years, but 
> probably no two on the same project.
> My talk, if it pleases your audience, is
>   "Ontologies as the Next Generation Information Models".
> I'll come up with an appropriate abstract, but the main 
> thrust is that many 
> ontologies are really just good EAR models, and many good EAR 
> models would be 
> good ontologies if the language had supported stating them.  
> And it's all 
> about what "good" means and exactly how ontologies are an 
> improvement.  Part 
> of what that means is that well-tested information analysis 
> practices may be 
> useful for developing good ontologies, and some of the 
> existing products of 
> that analysis (the models) may be usefully converted to good 
> ontologies.  And 
> of course, one can use such ontologies as information models 
> for the purpose 
> of designing real databases, as opposed to XML schemas and 
> RDF stores.  And 
> that leads naturally to the thorny problem of the 
> relationship between 
> first-order logic ontologies, integrity constraints, and 
> "database logic" 
> ((event-)condition-action rule systems).
> The above lacks polish, but you get the drift.  I'm not sure 
> what percentage 
> of that at what level will fit into 90 min with Q&A.  We 
> should probably lop 
> off the last topic as a whole lecture unto itself (it easily 
> is), and you can 
> undoubtedly find a more expert lecturer in that area.
> Right now I am up to my ears in project deliverables, and I 
> won't see daylight 
> until mid-February.
> Best regards,
> -Ed
> -- 
> Edward J. Barkmeyer                        Email: edbark@xxxxxxxx
> National Institute of Standards & Technology
> Manufacturing Systems Integration Division
> 100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8263                Tel: +1 301-975-3528
> Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8263                FAX: +1 301-975-4694
>     (07)

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