Thank you, David. =ppy (01)
On 10/5/06, David Decraene <David@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> We are indeed a commercial company. So I intend to close down on this
> response, to conclude this specific thread I would like to post the link to
> the webex presentation itself:
>
>https://landc-events.webex.com/ec0502l/eventcenter/recording/recordAction.do?theAction=poprecord&confViewID=297314027&siteurl=landc-events
> (the previously specified link referred to the webex player software, which
> you need to playback the wrf file).
> In case of problems downloading, feel free to contact us directly.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> David Decraene
> PH.D. BioMedical sciences/Ontology modeller.
> Language and Computing NV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter P. Yim [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: woensdag 4 oktober 2006 17:14
> To: David Decraene
> Cc: Pat Cassidy; Arsic, Antoinette
> Subject: Re: FW: [ontolog-forum] Ontology extraction tool
>
>
> Hi David,
>
>
> Thank you for responding the other community members' query so
> thoroughly.
>
> To put things in context ... ONTOLOG is an 'open' community,
> advocating the unencumbered sharing and bootstrapping of
> technology, content and knowledge, and tries to abide by a fairly
> strict 'open' IPR policy (see:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32)
>
> ... As such we tend to favor (and give more support) to things
> like, open source software or, say, open ontologies running on an
> open platform, and leave commercial products (and proprietary
> technologies) to their own, traditional, marketing and
> promotional channels (e.g. paid advertising elsewhere).
>
> Now, to answer your: "Is it possible to send this ..." question,
>
> 1. I believe sending big files to a mailing list is almost always
> a bad idea ... it wastes global resources, and unreliable. The
> sender cannot be sure how many recipients would really get it ...
> at a 12MB size, even if our listserv would have allowed it, I
> doubt if more than 25% of your audience would end up getting that
> in their inbox at all.
>
> 2. In fact, we do impose a size limit of 3MB for our posted
> messages, and therefore, the technical answer to your question is
> "No".
>
> 3. As for the 'policy' answer ... Not knowing whether your
> company's technology is 'open' or 'proprietary', my take is:
>
> (a) if your technology/content is 'open', we can explore other
> means to host the content in question within the Ontolog
> 'collaborative work environment' (where we have a shared-file
> workspace for our use ... that is, for example, where all the
> powerpoint files of invited speakers are kept and served). That
> way, your file may possibly be more easily accessed by our
> community membership and the industry at large.
>
> (b) if your technology/content is 'proprietary', then I feel
> you've pretty much reached the limit of how far you can go with
> your response (even though it is 'solicited'), without getting
> complaints about 'vendors advertising on our forum'.
>
> 4. the fact that your have already posted a link to that webex
> content should already be quite adequate.
>
> 5. To further your cause, you might also:
>
> (a) suggest in your post for people to contact you offline if
> they still want more information, and/or
>
> (b) send your attachment directly (now that you have, say,
> Antoinette Arsic & Pat Cassidy's e-mail addresses) to whoever
> asked for it, without sending it through the list. (... but of
> course, the size limitations by conventional e-mail systems would
> still apply.)
>
> Hope that answers your question.
>
>
> Thanks & regards. =ppy
> --
>
>
> David Decraene wrote Wed, 4 Oct 2006 15:17:35 +0200:
> > Is it possible to send this webex presentation as a reply to the mails
> below to the list? (it is over 12MB in size).
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of David
> > Decraene
> > Sent: woensdag 4 oktober 2006 15:13
> > To: Cassidy, Patrick J.; ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: Whit Creech; Dave Hellman; Davide Zaccagnini; Mariana Casella Dos
> > Santos; Karen Doyle
> > Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology extraction tool
> >
> >
> > Please find attached a very recent webex presentation on some of our NLP
> capabilities (It is about 12MB).
> > You will need a webexplayer to view the presentation.
> > The download can be found at
> http://support.webex.com/support/downloads.html
> >
> >
> > The engine currently addresses LinKBase, which has a major focus on the
> healhtcare domain, (as a fact the largest formal medical ontology up to
> date) but it can easily be adapted to new domains.
> >
> > It is intended as a simple introduction to our NLP technology, for more
> elaborate information, please contact
> > our Vice President of Business Development:
> >
> > Whit Creech
> > Vice President Business Development
> > Language and Computing
> > E-Mail: Whit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Website: www.landcglobal.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cassidy, Patrick J. [mailto:pcassidy@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: woensdag 4 oktober 2006 14:37
> > To: David Decraene
> > Subject: RE: [ontolog-forum] Ontology extraction tool
> >
> >
> > Do you have an online demo or trial version that can be evaluated?
> > A pointer to more detailed information?
> >
> > Pat
> >
> >
> > Patrick Cassidy
> > MITRE Corporation
> > 260 Industrial Way
> > Eatontown, NJ 07724
> > Mail Stop: MNJE
> > Phone: 732-578-6340
> > Cell: 908-565-4053
> > Fax: 732-578-6012
> > Email: pcassidy@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David
> > Decraene
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 2:48 AM
> > To: [ontolog-forum]
> > Cc: Mariana Casella Dos Santos
> > Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology extraction tool
> >
> > I completely disagree with this.
> > L&C's technology possesses NLP capabilities. In specific, we have
> > automated analysis of free text, it translates the terms found into
> > existing (or non-existing) ontology concepts and is able introduce
> > meaningful relations.
> > Our NLP engine (Tessi) detects paragraphs, finds sentence boundaries,
> > uses a dependency parser to get a correct parse-tree, and uses a
> > semantic tagger to infer ontology concepts from these parsetrees. The
> > ontocreation module is able to construct new ontology content based on
> > what was parsed as well.
> >
> > Our lexicon (the language layer connecting text to ontology) is
> > integrated into our very own formal ontology, named linkbase (700.000
> > core concepts).
> >
> > It's not an AI miracle, it's a formal ontology miracle.
> >
> > David Decraene
> > PH.D. BioMedical sciences/Ontology modeller.
> > Language and Computing NV
> > Kortrijksesteenweg 1038
> > 9051 Sint-Denijs-Westrem
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Pat Hayes
> > Sent: dinsdag 3 oktober 2006 23:25
> > To: Arsic, Antoinette
> > Cc: [ontolog-forum]
> > Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology extraction tool
> >
> >
> >> A fellow MITRErite was asking the following, and I thought this group
> >> was the best you can get to ask:
> >>
> >> (I'm) looking for an automated ontology extraction tool that can be
> >> used against unstructured data
> >
> > What exactly do you mean by 'using against' here?
> > If you want a tool that can input unstructured
> > text input and output a formal structured
> > ontology representing the same information, then
> > no such tool exists or will exist in the
> > forseeable future. That is asking for an AI
> > miracle. If anyone offers you one, ask for the
> > Brooklyn Bridge instead.
> >
> > Pat Hayes
> >
> >> (softcopy text documents in MS Word,
> >> EXCEL or PDF formats) and structured data. Is anyone aware of such a
> >> tool(s)?
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> Antoinette Arsic
> >> The MITRE Corporation
> >> 703-983-5286 (office)
> >> 443-567-2703 (cell)
> >>
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