We are indeed a commercial company. So I intend to close down on this response,
to conclude this specific thread I would like to post the link to the webex
presentation itself:
https://landc-events.webex.com/ec0502l/eventcenter/recording/recordAction.do?theAction=poprecord&confViewID=297314027&siteurl=landc-events
(the previously specified link referred to the webex player software, which
you need to playback the wrf file).
In case of problems downloading, feel free to contact us directly. (01)
Yours sincerely, (02)
David Decraene
PH.D. BioMedical sciences/Ontology modeller.
Language and Computing NV (03)
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter P. Yim [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: woensdag 4 oktober 2006 17:14
To: David Decraene
Cc: Pat Cassidy; Arsic, Antoinette
Subject: Re: FW: [ontolog-forum] Ontology extraction tool (04)
Hi David, (05)
Thank you for responding the other community members' query so
thoroughly. (06)
To put things in context ... ONTOLOG is an 'open' community,
advocating the unencumbered sharing and bootstrapping of
technology, content and knowledge, and tries to abide by a fairly
strict 'open' IPR policy (see:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32) (07)
... As such we tend to favor (and give more support) to things
like, open source software or, say, open ontologies running on an
open platform, and leave commercial products (and proprietary
technologies) to their own, traditional, marketing and
promotional channels (e.g. paid advertising elsewhere). (08)
Now, to answer your: "Is it possible to send this ..." question, (09)
1. I believe sending big files to a mailing list is almost always
a bad idea ... it wastes global resources, and unreliable. The
sender cannot be sure how many recipients would really get it ...
at a 12MB size, even if our listserv would have allowed it, I
doubt if more than 25% of your audience would end up getting that
in their inbox at all. (010)
2. In fact, we do impose a size limit of 3MB for our posted
messages, and therefore, the technical answer to your question is
"No". (011)
3. As for the 'policy' answer ... Not knowing whether your
company's technology is 'open' or 'proprietary', my take is: (012)
(a) if your technology/content is 'open', we can explore other
means to host the content in question within the Ontolog
'collaborative work environment' (where we have a shared-file
workspace for our use ... that is, for example, where all the
powerpoint files of invited speakers are kept and served). That
way, your file may possibly be more easily accessed by our
community membership and the industry at large. (013)
(b) if your technology/content is 'proprietary', then I feel
you've pretty much reached the limit of how far you can go with
your response (even though it is 'solicited'), without getting
complaints about 'vendors advertising on our forum'. (014)
4. the fact that your have already posted a link to that webex
content should already be quite adequate. (015)
5. To further your cause, you might also: (016)
(a) suggest in your post for people to contact you offline if
they still want more information, and/or (017)
(b) send your attachment directly (now that you have, say,
Antoinette Arsic & Pat Cassidy's e-mail addresses) to whoever
asked for it, without sending it through the list. (... but of
course, the size limitations by conventional e-mail systems would
still apply.) (018)
Hope that answers your question. (019)
Thanks & regards. =ppy
-- (020)
David Decraene wrote Wed, 4 Oct 2006 15:17:35 +0200:
> Is it possible to send this webex presentation as a reply to the mails below
>to the list? (it is over 12MB in size). (021)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of David
> Decraene
> Sent: woensdag 4 oktober 2006 15:13
> To: Cassidy, Patrick J.; ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Whit Creech; Dave Hellman; Davide Zaccagnini; Mariana Casella Dos
> Santos; Karen Doyle
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology extraction tool
>
>
> Please find attached a very recent webex presentation on some of our NLP
>capabilities (It is about 12MB).
> You will need a webexplayer to view the presentation.
> The download can be found at http://support.webex.com/support/downloads.html
>
>
> The engine currently addresses LinKBase, which has a major focus on the
>healhtcare domain, (as a fact the largest formal medical ontology up to date)
>but it can easily be adapted to new domains.
>
> It is intended as a simple introduction to our NLP technology, for more
>elaborate information, please contact
> our Vice President of Business Development:
>
> Whit Creech
> Vice President Business Development
> Language and Computing
> E-Mail: Whit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Website: www.landcglobal.com (022)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cassidy, Patrick J. [mailto:pcassidy@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: woensdag 4 oktober 2006 14:37
> To: David Decraene
> Subject: RE: [ontolog-forum] Ontology extraction tool
>
>
> Do you have an online demo or trial version that can be evaluated?
> A pointer to more detailed information?
>
> Pat
>
>
> Patrick Cassidy
> MITRE Corporation
> 260 Industrial Way
> Eatontown, NJ 07724
> Mail Stop: MNJE
> Phone: 732-578-6340
> Cell: 908-565-4053
> Fax: 732-578-6012
> Email: pcassidy@xxxxxxxxx (023)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David
> Decraene
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 2:48 AM
> To: [ontolog-forum]
> Cc: Mariana Casella Dos Santos
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology extraction tool
>
> I completely disagree with this.
> L&C's technology possesses NLP capabilities. In specific, we have
> automated analysis of free text, it translates the terms found into
> existing (or non-existing) ontology concepts and is able introduce
> meaningful relations.
> Our NLP engine (Tessi) detects paragraphs, finds sentence boundaries,
> uses a dependency parser to get a correct parse-tree, and uses a
> semantic tagger to infer ontology concepts from these parsetrees. The
> ontocreation module is able to construct new ontology content based on
> what was parsed as well.
>
> Our lexicon (the language layer connecting text to ontology) is
> integrated into our very own formal ontology, named linkbase (700.000
> core concepts).
>
> It's not an AI miracle, it's a formal ontology miracle.
>
> David Decraene
> PH.D. BioMedical sciences/Ontology modeller.
> Language and Computing NV
> Kortrijksesteenweg 1038
> 9051 Sint-Denijs-Westrem (024)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Pat Hayes
> Sent: dinsdag 3 oktober 2006 23:25
> To: Arsic, Antoinette
> Cc: [ontolog-forum]
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology extraction tool
>
>
>> A fellow MITRErite was asking the following, and I thought this group
>> was the best you can get to ask:
>>
>> (I'm) looking for an automated ontology extraction tool that can be
>> used against unstructured data
>
> What exactly do you mean by 'using against' here?
> If you want a tool that can input unstructured
> text input and output a formal structured
> ontology representing the same information, then
> no such tool exists or will exist in the
> forseeable future. That is asking for an AI
> miracle. If anyone offers you one, ask for the
> Brooklyn Bridge instead.
>
> Pat Hayes
>
>> (softcopy text documents in MS Word,
>> EXCEL or PDF formats) and structured data. Is anyone aware of such a
>> tool(s)?
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Antoinette Arsic
>> The MITRE Corporation
>> 703-983-5286 (office)
>> 443-567-2703 (cell)
>>
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