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Re: [ontolog-forum] Synching audio and slides for Ontolog presentations

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From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 07:03:58 -0800
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Thank you, Peter ... Anyone with SMIL implementaion experience in the
community? Please comment  and advise.  =ppy    (01)

On 9/10/06, Peter F Brown <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Peter:
> thanks for the detailed reply...
>
> On the question of synching audio and slides...is this not what SMIL was
> supposed to enable? I know there was talk in the European Parliament a
> couple of years back of doing something similar using SMIL with
> parliamentary debate transcripts, essentially "subtitling" the transcripted
> text (in the translated language of the user's choice, from 22
> possibilities) to the video of the debate, but no-one put any cash on the
> table to do a serious study...
>
> Does anyone know of any successful application of SMIL for such ideas?
>
> Peter
>
> -------------
> Peter F Brown
> Chair, CEN eGovernment Focus Group
> Founder, Pensive.eu
> Co-Editor, OASIS SOA Reference Model
> Lecturer at XML Summer School
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter
> Yim
> Sent: 09 September 2006 18:51
> To: peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: [ontolog-forum]
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontolog Invited Speaker - Professor Alan Rector
> - Thu 2006.09.14
>
> Peter,
>
> Glad to hear from you again ... and to see your update at your namesake page
> on the Ontolog wiki. I'll look forward to talking to you next Thursday.
>
> Skipping intros ... Yes ... we've actually done that a few times already
> (guess you'd probbaly caught that in some of the recordings.
>
> As for skipping right to the talks, I have, of late (since late June ...
> don't know if you have noticed), taken the time to identify the spot where
> one can start listening - see, for example:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_08_10#nidPEU
> (also done for the sessions: ConferenceCall_2006_06_29,
> ConferenceCall_2006_07_06, ConferenceCall_2006_07_13 besides for
> ConferenceCall_2006_08_10.) ... If one plays the mp3 from your computer, I
> guess most players will allow one to navigate to that particular time point.
> This, of course, still doesn't solve your problem when one has to play it
> on, say a simple portable mp3 player (which probably wouldn't even support
> fast-forward, as you suggested, let alone navigating to a particular time
> point.)
>
> There has been some discussion, among the Ontolog folks, about synching the
> audio with slides (which require indexing specific time point to signal the
> slide advance, at its simplest). With the added indexing capability,
> identifying where one can start "right into the talk" will not be difficult
> ... then again, this will call for an even more sophisticated playback
> device than your simple mp3 player indeed!
>
> ... let's keep thinking about it and solicit ideas from the community!
>
> Comments and suggestions from ANYONE on what we can do to help the async
> participants?
>
> Regards.  =ppy
>
> P.S. Let me also take the opportunity to solicit all members who hasn't
> populated their namesake page on the wiki to do so. See:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidLGY
> Thanks.  =ppy
> --
>
>
> On 9/9/06, Peter F Brown <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Peter:
> > I should be able to join you next Thursday, after a long absence ;-)
> >
> > Just a couple of procedural points: I note from the Wiki that you
> > propose to skip intro if more than 20 people. I think this is
> > sensible, and might even be generalised: everyone can add a personal
> > description on their own Wiki page (yes, I'm back in!).
> >
> > There is a related reason for this: I've had to rely on the audio
> > recordings of sessions to keep up, and it's quite a pain waiting for
> > the first 15min of an mp3 file to pass before the real proceedings
> > start - the mp3 recording is a single unindexed file, so no chance of
> > fast-forwarding on simple mp3 players...unless there are any plans for
> > capturing audio semantics ;-)
> >
> > I'd appreciate your comment on this
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > -------------
> > Peter F Brown
> > Chair, CEN eGovernment Focus Group
> > Founder, Pensive.eu
> > Co-Editor, OASIS SOA Reference Model
> > Lecturer at XML Summer School
> > ---
> > Personal:
> > +43 676 610 0250
> > http://public.xdi.org/=Peter.Brown
> > www.XMLbyStealth.net
> > www.xmlsummerschool.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter P.
> > Yim
> > Sent: 08 September 2006 20:31
> > To: [ontolog-forum]
> > Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontolog Invited Speaker - Professor Alan
> > Rector
> > - Thu 2006.09.14
> >
> > Ref:
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_09_14
> >
> > *REMINDER*
> >
> > The subject talk is coming up next Thursday, 14-Sep-2006 (starting at
> > 17:30 UTC / 6:30pm BST / 1:30pm EDT / 10:30am PDT). ...[snip]...
>
>    (02)

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