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Re: [ontolog-admin] FW: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

To: Matthew West <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "[ontolog-admin] forum" <ontolog-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:44:31 -0700
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Dear Matthew,    (01)

Yes, it's been quite bad. I got blocked three times, in the last few
days - twice with *both* gmail and yahoo!mail servers getting
blacklisted at the same time too ... although they were pretty good at
freeing themselves fairly quickly.    (02)

This is slightly more complicated than one thinks. It's not your email
address, but rather the mail exchanger that delivers your mail.
Therefore, if you use <matthew.west@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> and
have google deliver it for it, it'll get blocked just the same (if
someone else is using gmail to disseminate spam, and got caught!)    (03)

You best bet is to be able to send mail out through multiple avenues
(so if one gets blocked, you can still try to get through from another
channel.)    (04)

I have just added <matthew.west@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> as an
accepted alias for you on [ontolog-forum]. So, do try sending
something out, and see if it gets through. ... Good Luck!    (05)

Regards. =ppy
--    (06)


On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Matthew West
<dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Peter,
> My posts are being blocked again. Last time I was unable to find a way to
> contact Google to do anything about this, the only thing I could find was a
> bulletin board where other people were describing similar problems.
> Do you  think it would be better to change the email address I use for
> Ontolog to e.g. the one in my footer?
>
> Regards
>
> Matthew West
> Information  Junction
> Tel: +44 1489 880185
> Mobile: +44 750 3385279
> Skype: dr.matthew.west
> matthew.west@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.informationjunction.co.uk/
> http://www.matthew-west.org.uk/
>
> This email originates from Information Junction Ltd. Registered in England
> and Wales No. 6632177.
> Registered office: 2 Brookside, Meadow Way, Letchworth Garden City,
> Hertfordshire, SG6 3JE.    (07)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [mailto:mailer-daemon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 30 September 2011 07:28
> To: dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
>
> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
>
>     ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Technical details of permanent failure:
> Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient
> domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further
> information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server
> returned was: 554 554 Service unavailable; Client host [74.125.82.174]
> blocked using safe.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Currently Sending Spam See:
> http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?74.125.82.174 (state 14).
>
> ----- Original message -----
>
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> From: "Matthew West" <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx>
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> Subject: RE: [ontolog-forum] SOA organised with RDF - Use Case
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:27:19 +0100
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> Dear Bart,
>
> His real objection is to a fixed ontology rather than a standard one, he
> needs to be able to extend the ontology and correct it as time passes, and
> his idea of a standard ontology is that you cannot do that. This of course
> is not true. For example, ISO 15926 is designed to be extensible, with a
> small fixed core that supports that extensibility, and the standards process
> allows even that to be updated (though it hasn't been yet in 8 years).
>
> Regards
>
> Matthew West
> Information  Junction
> Tel: +44 1489 880185
> Mobile: +44 750 3385279
> Skype: dr.matthew.west
> matthew.west@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.informationjunction.co.uk/
> http://www.matthew-west.org.uk/
>
> This email originates from Information Junction Ltd. Registered in England
> and Wales No. 6632177.
> Registered office: 2 Brookside, Meadow Way, Letchworth Garden City,
> Hertfordshire, SG6 3JE.
>
>
>
>> I thought this post from Frank Carvalho was interesting as an
>> application of ontologies to keep dynamic data and metadata organized.
>>
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2011Sep/0167.html
>>
>> It's only RDF, but I find it interesting that a standard SOA ontology
>> is described as a problem. Instead each "type of metainformation has
>> its own ontology".
>>
>> Are standard/upper ontologies only practical for more expressive
>> ontology languages?
>>
>> Is this a unique domain-ontology that simply wouldn't benefit from a
>> standard/upper ontology?
>>
>> --
>> Bart Gajderowicz, MSc.
>> Ryerson University
>> http://www.scs.ryerson.ca/~bgajdero
>>
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