Folks, (01)
Shameless plug litmus tests? (02)
Hmmmm, I wonder about the need for Health Care Ontology Standards and
related tool markets by which these standards are eventually applied in
applications by vendors... (03)
So, perhaps Rex might have an opportunity to include this announcement in
his introduction? (04)
Rex, any comments? (05)
Cheers, (06)
Bob (07)
-----Original Message-----
From: ontolog-admin-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ontolog-admin-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter P. Yim
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:41 AM
To: Kurt Conrad; Duane Nickull
Cc: [ontolog-admin]
Subject: [ontolog-admin] Shamesless-plugs, Dec-2005 Discussion session prep,
etc. [was-Re: suggested wording - draft] (08)
Duane / Kurt, (09)
1. Looks good. I think this "Call for Submissions" is a great idea. (010)
2. Understanding what on the landscape, open or proprietary, is crucial to
our mission (although our open knowledge, open content, open source policy
would only encourage our free promotion of the former.) We do want a proper
exposure to
*everything* (open or not) ... and, an "invited" presentation of something
proprietary (say, Doug Lenat talking about Cyc on our invitation ...
although we would probably prompt him to put more focus on OpenCyc) is
surely NOT a "shameless" plug. (011)
3. Referring back to the earlier exchange and post about "Commercially
skewed postings" and "self-promotions" (ref:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00014.html
&
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RecommendedReadingResource#nidANP),
I think what we want to avoid is the *real* shamelesss plugs, and
people using our space as some kind of a free bill-board. The two
statements referred above should probably suffice (we just have to be true
to them, and keep nudging people back in line, when need be. (012)
4. Before we do anything else, I think you two should *lock down a date*
first. That way, we can start a wiki page for it, and that page could serve
as a "shared display" that helps sync everything (and everyone) up. Do you
have one yet? If not, can we have one now? (so far, we only know that it's
going to be in December -- ref:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_10_06#nidGNL) (013)
5.
> [DN] So can we place this item on the agenda for Thursday? (014)
[ppy] we are not going to have a chance to "talk about it"
anytime soon (see:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?MeetingsCalls#nidEXT) ...
since our moderator/organizer usually are empowered to make the calls, I
suggest that you two just go ahead and make whatever interim decisions
necessary to move the whole thing forward. Try keeping as much of the
conversation on the [ontolog-forum] as much as you can. That way, we can
keep people posted, and would be better able to cater the event to the
community's needs and wants. (015)
Cheers. =ppy
-- (016)
Kurt Conrad wrote Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:07:09 -0800:
> Duane,
>
> I see no reason not to. I'm cc'ing Peter to give him a heads up on
> the vendor issue (in red) before the session on Thursday.
>
> /s/ kwc 2005.10.31 11:06 (017)
> At 2005-10-31 10:04, you wrote:
>
>> So can we place this item on the agenda for Thursday?
>>
>> Duane (018)
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kurt Conrad [ mailto:conrad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:45 PM
>> To: Duane Nickull
>> Subject: Re: suggested wording - draft
>>
>> Duane,
>>
>> Looks good. Tweaks embedded.
>>
>> /s/ kwc 2005.10.27 17:44
>>
>>
>> At 2005-10-27 10:27, you wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Call for submissions
>>
>> *** CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS ***
>>
>> Title: Implementation Experience Discussion
>>
>> Synopsis:
>>
>> The Ontolog Forum wishes to conduct one or more technical discussions
>> based on real-world implementation experience with ontologies and
>> semantic-integration topics.
>>
>> The organizers are soliciting individuals with experience in this
>> area to submit
>> 2-3 slides to serve as a starting point for the discussion and a
>> brief
>> (1-2 paragraph) summary/abstract to help with selection and scheduling.
>>
>> It is expected that the level of interest and response will be
>> influence the number discussions that will be held, as we are
>> targeting 3-4 panelists per discussion.
>>
>> Vendors are also invited to respond, but preference will be given to
>> submissions discussing end-user experiences and how their problems
>> were/are being solved.
>> Our hope is to avoid generic marketing presentations.
>>
>> (*note - does this violate the charter of the Ontolog Forum??)
>> [kwc: I don't believe that it violates the charter, I tried to phrase
>> the request so that we can judge the submission for quality and
>> appropriateness.
>> But to be sure, we could run the final wording past Peter and Leo to
>> check for any objections.]
>>
>> We are striving for highly-interactive sessions. Each session will
>> run approximately 1.5 hours.
>> Panelists will present their 2-3 slides showcasing some
>> implementation of Ontology and semantic concepts.
>> Each presentation will be followed by an open Q&A (approximately 10
>> minutes).
>> The remaining time will be used for general discussion.
>>
>> For those wishing to submit a presentation, please send an email to
>> both Kurt Conrad <conrad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> and Duane Nickull
>> (email) with the requested slides and summary. After the submissions
>> have been reviewed, dates will be finalized for the presentations.
>> We will be scheduling the discussion for one or more of the standard
>> Ontolog virtual meetings: Thursdays at 10:30am Pacific.
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