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To: "'Peter Yim'" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: 'Kurt Conrad' <conrad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ontolog-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: "Bob Smith" <robsmith5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 08:30:57 -0800
Message-id: <20040107163115.B4F15431@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi Peter, Kurt:    (01)

Peter, thanks for your offer to provide me with credentials to upload
content.    (02)

Our project's objectives, or milestones, seem to follow 6 steps, of which we
are 5/6 done (but the last step is going to be the hardest step, in my
opinion)    (03)

We have proved that we can now 
1. capture face to face presentations with a video camera,
2. Convert those images and audio into an editable format,
3. Edit and (perhaps) "interlace" / splice powerpoint presentations,
4. Store the resulting (Very Large 1-4 GB) files onto a DVD+R and DVD+RW
disk
5. Upload selected files onto a Wiki site.    (04)

== we reached this point....but still to be demonstrated:    (05)

6. Create and maintain powerful, robust, compelling user interactions about
Ontology, UBL, and world peace...
....
Now we know some of the limitations of these tools, we need "great content"
to justify the effort.      (06)

My sense is that without improved editing and "orchestration" of the content
I may be wasting your time uploading. I am very weak in graphic and
multimedia skills, just very curious about how we can use these newer
technologies to effectively educate ourselves.    (07)

Kurt, you were the "instigator" of this effort. What do you see as the next
step? Is my "Step 6" something we can do in the next week? Month? Decade????    (08)

(Sorry, my eyes hurt from spending way too much time scripting KM stuff on
the computer screen)    (09)

Regards,    (010)

Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Yim [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:31 PM
To: Bob Smith
Cc: 'Peter Yim'; 'Kurt Conrad'; ontolog-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Solving Problems in Ontolog Nov'03 Workshop digitized video    (011)

Bob,    (012)

Thanks for the message, Bob.    (013)

I can actually provide you with the credentials to do the upload directly
from your machine. That way, if you have the content on your hard disk
already, we save the trouble of going through DVD burning as an intermediary
step.    (014)

Let me know what you think.    (015)

Regards,
PPY
--    (016)

Bob Smith wrote Tue, 6 Jan 2004 18:45:14 -0800:    (017)

>  Thanks for the careful documentation of working and corrupted files,
Peter.
> 
>  I tested the DVD on two separate machines, and you tried many more. 
> 
>  The solution may involve more time and effort than is warranted. One 
> approach is to  cut another Master DVD Directly from the DV cassettes 
> to eliminate "corruption" from transfers.
> 
>  Let us keep our notes about the experiment...
> 
> 
>  Will check out the website.
> 
>  Thanks,
> 
>  Bob    (018)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Yim [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:28 PM
> To: Bob Smith
> Cc: Peter Yim; Kurt Conrad; ontolog-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Ontolog Nov'03 Workshop digitized video
> 
> Bob,
> 
> Your "Kurt & Bob" DVD arrived in the mail today. Thanks.
> 
> I've got good news and bad news ...
> 
> .. the good news is, some files worked, and I'm uploading them to the 
> server, and you will be able to see them under:
> 
>    http://nm2.cim3.net:8880/ontolog/resource/ontolog-nov03-f2f/
> 
> The smallest one is up there already, and you can access it as:
>  
> http://nm2.cim3.net:8880/ontolog/resource/ontolog-nov03-f2f/Jan2002_UB
> L.wmv
> 
> (unfortunately, that's not from an earlier UBL meeting, and not from 
> our workshop ... I'll be removing it eventually.)
> 
> .. the bad news is that I am having problem reading you DVD. I 
> actually tried 4 different DVD drives (from both Win2K & WinXP) and 
> only 2 (out of the four) were able to read some of the contents 
> properly (the same ones, though, from both).
> 
> The result of my attempt is noted below.
> 
>   -----[y] indicates that I was able to read content properly 
> (otherwise, I was unable to read content properly, mostly due to 
> content corruption.)
> 
> //
>   Volume in drive R is 031123_1518
>   Volume Serial Number is 41F1-32D7
> 
>   Directory of R:\
> 
> 11/15/2003  01:10 PM       224,923,480 01.wmv              -----[y]
> 11/17/2003  06:13 PM       150,272,422 2003UBLF2F3_4.wmv   -----[y]
> 11/15/2003  04:42 PM         4,171,314 Jan2002_UBL.wmv     -----[y]
> 11/20/2003  07:44 AM             1,411 Kurt_Video1.htm     -----[y]
> 11/23/2003  03:18 PM    <DIR>          Ontolog_PPT
> 11/15/2003  10:10 PM           642,048 Sue_Marion_2.MSWMM
> 11/15/2003  08:07 PM       164,574,426 Sue_Marion_UBL2.wmv -----[y]
> 11/15/2003  04:25 PM       256,266,214 UBL02.wmv
> 11/16/2003  06:55 PM        82,758,600 UBL04.wmv
> 11/16/2003  04:55 PM       182,483,388 UBL04F2F5.wmv
> 11/18/2003  11:14 PM       246,941,660 UBL2F3a.wmv
> 11/19/2003  06:59 AM       154,355,550 UBL2F3B.wmv
> 11/18/2003  06:17 PM       141,965,930 UBL3_4.wmv
> 11/18/2003  08:07 PM        67,707,552 UBL3_4_a.wmv
> 11/17/2003  10:20 PM        47,103,712 UBL_F2F3_4Partial.wmv
> 11/20/2003  12:57 PM             6,567 Video Tape status and issues.htm
>                15 File(s)  1,724,174,274 bytes
>                 1 Dir(s)               0 bytes free
> //
> 
> I'm in the process of uploading the other files that my drive is able 
> to read (but it will take, at least, the next couple of hours).
> 
> Regards,
> PPY
> --    (019)

> Peter Yim wrote Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:13:16 -0800:
> 
>>Bob,
>>
>>Thank you very much for preparing the digital video. My physical 
>>address
>>is: 
>>
>>...[snip]...    (020)


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