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Re: [cctont-imp] Re: [CCT-Rep] CCTONT v0.2 wip

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From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:26:38 -0700
Message-id: <40D21A9E.5030309@xxxxxxxx>
Thanks, Adam. Great work ... lightning turn-around, no less!  -ppy    (01)


Garret, Nenad, Tim, Sue & Alan,    (02)


AA. Please review these workfiles. Questions, comments, suggestions 
welcomed. Post them on this thread, by all means, if you have anything 
now. There's no need to even wait for the conference call.    (03)

BB. As discussed on our 2004.06.15 meeting, we'd want to have a phone 
conference tomorrow to talk about it.    (04)

BB-1. I suggest the following agenda for the call:    (05)

   1. Adam walks us through the CCTONT v0-2f artifact.    (06)

   2. Q & A    (07)

   3a. Discussion: how should this be presented to a typical eBusiness 
Standards body to have it make sense to the audience and make the 
desired impact.    (08)

   3b. Since our are supposed to be presenting something at the 
2004.08.03 EIDX Conference in Orlando, alongside ebXML CCT people and 
UDEF people, let's use that scenario to formulate our delivery strategy.    (09)

   4. Follow-up, next steps and workplan update.    (010)

BB-2. I will go ahead and reserve a call for Fri 2004.06.18 1:30pm EDT 
/ 10:30am PDT. You'll be receiving a FreeConference.com invitation 
under separate cover. I hope this would work for most (if not all) of 
us. RSVP.  If this absolutely doesn't work for you, please indicate 
what would be a time that is feasible. I offer three other 
alternatives below:    (011)

   (a) Fri 2004.06.18 11:00am EDT / 8:00am PDT, or    (012)

   (b) Fri 2004.06.18 2:30pm EDT / 11:30am PDT, or    (013)

   (c) Sat 2004.06.19 10:00am EDT / 7:00am PDT    (014)

on your RSVP, please also indicate any or all of the above slots that 
would be feasible to you too. If none works, please suggest something.    (015)

CC. I'll set up the wiki page at (say): 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CctRepresentation/WorkSession_2004_06_18_CCT    (016)

and a VNC (shared screen) to augment the call, once we tie down the 
call time    (017)

DD. Adam, I have uploaded the work files to our file workspace and 
name them according to the following:    (018)

   (a) the spreadsheet as you have attached (content unchanged, header 
updated to reflect filename and change info), at: 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/CCT-Representation/wip/CCTONT-worksheet-v0-2f.xls    (019)

   (b) the spreadsheet as you have attached (except renamed), at: 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/CCT-Representation/wip/CCTONT-worksheet-v0-2e.xls    (020)



   (c) Current version of your CCTrep.kif file (this is exactly as per 
your email attachment): 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/CCT-Representation/wip/CCTrep.kif    (021)

   (d) versioned copy of your CCTrep.kif file (of course, for now (c) 
& (d) are the same), at: 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/CCT-Representation/wip/CCTrep_v0-2f.kif    (022)

EE. Talk to you all tomorrow (hopefully).    (023)

Best regards.  -ppy
--    (024)


Adam Pease wrote Thu, 17 Jun 2004 13:49:19 -0700:    (025)

> Folks,
>   Here's the spreadsheet, only slightly updated, with a file of ontology 
> content, written in KIF, that is needed in addition to SUMO, MILO, and a 
> distributed computing ontology, in order to handle all the CCT content.
> 
> Adam    (026)


> At 05:15 AM 6/17/2004 -0700, Peter Yim wrote:
> 
>> Adam,
>>
>> Parsing done. Your "first cut" has practically covered everything.
>>
>> Remarks captured in:
>> 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/CCT-Representation/wip/CCTONT-worksheet-v0-2d.xls
> 
>>
>>
>> Let's discuss when you have a moment.
>>
>> Thanks & regards.  -ppy
>> --     (027)


>> Peter Yim wrote Thu, 17 Jun 2004 04:31:16 -0700:
>>
>>> Adam,
>>> Interim spreadsheet with all your 2004.02.20 mappings captured 
>>> (verbatim):
>>
>>
>>> 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/CCT-Representation/wip/CCTONT-worksheet-v0-2c.xls
> 
>>>
>>
>>
>>> -ppy
>>> --     (028)


>>> Peter Yim wrote Thu, 17 Jun 2004 03:20:47 -0700:
>>>
>>>> Adam,
>>>>
>>>> ... delayed, but here is the 2nd installment:
>>
>>
>>>> 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/CCT-Representation/wip/CCTONT-worksheet-v0-2b.xls
> 
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>> &
>>>> 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/CCT-Representation/wip/cct-spec-wip_v0-2b.txt
> 
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> I have captured all the terms (10 CCT's and 44 Supplementary 
>>>> Components) into the spreadsheet -- verbatim from CCTS v2.01.
>>>>   [... labor intensive (at least the way I did it)
>>>>        ... hope it is  useful!]
>>>>
>>>> I am just now ready to parse that against your earlier mappings. I 
>>>> have a few questions too ... let's try to have a phone conversation 
>>>> in the morning.
>>>>
>>>> Regards.  -ppy
>>>> --     (029)


>>>> Peter Yim wrote Wed, 16 Jun 2004 12:18:11 -0700:
>>>>
>>>>> Adam,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ref our 2004.06.15 work plan item 5.1 
>>>>> 
>(http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CctRepresentation/WorkSession_2004_06_15_CCT#nid023),
> 
>>>>> this would be my first installment of work. I have captured your 
>>>>> 2004.03.20 mappings into a spreadsheet format, along with an 
>>>>> accompanying text file, in case you just needed to copy and paste 
>>>>> the text string (that is what I had to use to construct the 
>>>>> spreadsheet).
>>>>>
>>>>> You can find them, respectively, at:
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>> 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/CCT-Representation/wip/CCTONT-worksheet-v0-2a.xls
> 
>>>>> &
>>
>>
>>>>> 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/CCT-Representation/wip/cct-spec-wip_v0-2a.txt
> 
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>> While hardly progress in made (in terms of representation), I guess 
>>>>> this could be a slightly easier format to work with (than the CCTS 
>>>>> PDF files from where this information is documented).
>>>>>
>>>>> So far, I've only captured the 10 Core Component Types.  The other 
>>>>> 44 Supplementary Components will be forthcoming.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.  -ppy
>>
>>
>>>>> P.S. Heads up: after I'm done with getting you the CCT 
>>>>> supplementary components, I am going to create a new list called 
>>>>> [cctont-imp] to capture (and archive) the conversation during our 
>>>>> implementation process. This will only include the implementation 
>>>>> team members (rather than the entire ontolog community). Once that 
>>>>> becomes available, I'll let everyone know, and we'll move the 
>>>>> conversation over to that.  -ppy
>>>>> -- 
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ; CCT knowledge not already in SUMO + MILO + QoS ontology
> 
> (subclass CodingScheme Procedure)
> (documentation CodingScheme "A &%Procedure for &%Encoding and/or &%Decoding
> information.  A coding scheme is often implemented as a &%ComputerProgram.
> Some examples of coding schemes include MPEG, WAV, and pig-latin.")
> 
> (=>
>   (and
>     (instance ?P Encoding)
>     (agent ?P ?A))
>   (exists (?CODE)
>     (or
>       (knows ?P ?CODE)
>       (exists (?OBJ)
>         (and
>           (instrument ?P ?OBJ)
>           (containsInformation ?OBJ ?CODE))))))
> 
> 
> (=>
>   (and
>     (instance ?P Decoding)
>     (agent ?P ?A))
>   (exists (?CODE)
>     (or
>       (knows ?P ?CODE)
>       (exists (?OBJ)
>         (and
>           (instrument ?P ?OBJ)
>           (containsInformation ?OBJ ?CODE))))))
> 
> (subclass ImageFile ComputerData)    ; change from the SUObasedOntology.txt
> 
> (instance coding BinaryRelation)
> (documentation coding "A relation between a &%ContentBearingObject and a 
> &%CodingScheme that specifies how the content is expressed.  Typically,
> this will be used either for encoded secret communications or computer
> files that might be coded simply for data compression instead of 
> information security.")
> (domain coding 1 ContentBearingObject)
> (domain coding 2 CodingScheme)
> 
> ; axiom from SUObasedOntology.txt changed
> 
> (=>
>     (instance ?URI UniformResourceIdentifier)
>     (exists (?Resource)
>         (and
>             (instance ?Resource ComputerData)
>             (refers ?URI ?Resource))))                                        
>                                   
> 
> 
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