(note change of address to forum space) (01)
- recent activity in the capital projects space concerning equipment tends to
be related to ISO 15926. ISO 15926 is getting a lot of traction in the process
control and in the oil and gas industries. (02)
- the International Foundation Classes (IFC) are the foundation of the BIM
models, particularly the US standard NBIMS and its international brother
buildingSmart. (03)
These two are in my view, somewhat complementary, as 15926 is very string in
equipment but weak in architecture, and IFC is strong in architecture and
structural engineering but weaker in equipment. FIATECH is exploring whether
they can be somewhat united, perhaps starting with applying COBIE metadata to
15926 deliverables. (04)
There is also an AEX standard for equipment in the supply chain. It is designed
to allow ready comparison between specifications, [vendor] proposals, bidding,
and acquisition. It was developed with an eye toward being readily
transformable to either 15926 or IFC (05)
"When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so
regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened
for us." -- Alexander Graham Bell (06)
Toby Considine
Chair, OASIS oBIX TC
Facilities Technology Office
University of North Carolina
Chapel Hill, NC (07)
Email: Toby.Considine@ unc.edu
Phone: (919)962-9073
http://www.oasis-open.org
blog: www.NewDaedalus.com (08)
-----Original Message-----
From: segun_alayande@xxxxxxx [mailto:segun_alayande@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 5:12 AM
To: Deborah MacPherson
Cc: Bob Smith; James Bryce Clark; Michelle Raymond; Peter Yim; Rex Brooks;
Considine, Toby (Campus Services IT)
Subject: Re: FW: I'd like to set up an Ontolog project (09)
Dear all, (010)
I work for BAA, the airport operator which owns and manages different types
of facilities in the United Kingdom.
I am new to the Facility / building management domain. I joined the
organisation about a year ago as the Enterprise Information Architect. I am
working to develop a data taxonomy as the basis of an enterprise data
model. (011)
My requirements are driven by the need to establish data standards for the
integration of building automation systems. I am therefore interested in
classification schemes for Buildings, Equipment and Devices and the
development of semantic information models that would enable
interoperability of these elements. (012)
In my initial investigations, I have identified a standard, the UNICLASS (
http://www.productioninformation.org/Uniclass.asp) which follows the ISO
Technical Report 14177 Classification of information in the construction
industry July 1994. (013)
I am also keen to explore how we could map to international standards like
Open Group's UDEF (http://www.opengroup.org/udef/) which complies to the
ISO 11179 and ISO 15000 standards (data management standards). (014)
kind regards (015)
Segun (016)
"Deborah
MacPherson"
<debmacp@xxxxxxxx To
m> "Considine, Toby (Campus Services
IT)" <Toby.Considine@xxxxxxx>
11/04/2008 20:50 cc
"Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>,
"Bob Smith" <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"segun_alayande@xxxxxxx"
<segun_alayande@xxxxxxx>, "Rex
Brooks" <rexb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Michelle Raymond"
<michellearaymond@xxxxxxxxx>,
"James Bryce Clark"
<jamie.clark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject
Re: FW: I'd like to set up an
Ontolog project (017)
Yes - services expected from the building systems which can be "building
things" like HVAC systems, a restaurant, brick and mortar cavity walls and
larger performance requirements that are bigger than the building like " a
tornado is coming and there are x number of people here perhaps some back
and forth about how sturdy various structures can be expected to be. (018)
Two sides of a coin where one side is the program and spatial proportions
of the building "Hotel, 250 rooms, 8 stories, OCCS class etc" - which is
nicely aligned to BIMstorm and OPS. To BIMStorm is to develop a project
and get these spaces to work, Owners, Designers, City Planners can all play
with and create the same spaces. Analysis can be performed on the results
for any number of reasons - cost, geospatial and so on. (019)
The other side is physical performance - for example a necessary
performance requirement of the hotel class is to achieve an acoustical goal
between rooms, to get there x, y, z gypsum board and a certain type of
insulation are used. All the materials have classes which can be mapped
into other classes and, what I'm trying to do, eventually map into the
spatial programming world of BIMstorm and similar. (020)
There is now a bridge between idea requirements and physical requirements.
That same bridge may be able to be extended and reused for other purposes
that need the physical world and semantic world to stay connected under
certain conditions. (021)
Deborah (022)
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Considine, Toby (Campus Services IT) <
Toby.Considine@xxxxxxx> wrote:
I have just been on the phone with Bob and Deborah, in series. I was
trying to align the Deborah's Building Purpose Classification with my own
interest in defining a Building Service Provisioning Framework. After
some arm-wrestling, Deborah and I have come up with: (023)
BuildingServicePerformance - an Ontolog project to formalize how we
describe the Purpose(s) of a Facility and the associated services
expected from the building systems. We hope to include the beginning of a
compliance framework as well, that is, how to understand if the service
is being provided in accord with required performance metrics. (024)
We clearly do not intend to write the metrics, but we believe the
framework will allow others to formalize the metrics require for
different scenarios pretty quickly. (025)
A measure of success would be that the framework can be used to generate
IDMs to at last create information bridges between building systems and
buildingSmart, although that is not the only use we see. (026)
Bob want us to begin fleshing out the wiki to define this part of the
project soon. (027)
tc (028)
"When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so
regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has
opened for us." -- Alexander Graham Bell (029)
Toby Considine
Chair, OASIS oBIX TC
Facilities Technology Office
University of North Carolina
Chapel Hill, NC (030)
Email: Toby.Considine@ unc.edu
Phone: (919)962-9073
http://www.oasis-open.org
blog: www.NewDaedalus.com (031)
-----Original Message-----
From: peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter
Yim
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 2:26 PM
To: Bob Smith; Deborah MacPherson; Considine, Toby (Campus Services IT);
segun_alayande@xxxxxxx; Rex Brooks; Michelle Raymond
Cc: James Bryce Clark; Peter Yim
Subject: Re: FW: I'd like to set up an Ontolog project (032)
Thank you Deborah and Bob. (033)
Sounds great! I can see we have 6 proponents here (I assume everyone
on this routing, except perhaps for Jamie and I are in ... let me know
otherwise.) More than 3 (the minimum) is obviously a good sign! (034)
... the team will need to adopt this charter at your "organizing"
meeting anyway. What I needed quickly, to allow my setting up a
CWE-workspace for the team, is a "name of the project" and possibly an
acronym. (035)
Can we get proposal(s) and then consensus on those (name and acronym)
please. (036)
Thanks. =ppy
-- (037)
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Bob Smith <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Thanks for your help in setting the format:
>
> This New Project has a Mission Statement crafted by Deborah,
> And thus a name should thus be easier to develop by the conveners:
>
> So the three names:
>
> 1.
> 2.
> 3. Bob Smith
>
>
> ======================================
>
> MISSION STATEMENT:
> DM> The statement could be along the lines of:
>
>
> "To reach global consensus on building classification types for:
> Emergency Response
> Local Jurisdiction Planning and Management
> Architectural Documentation
> Ontology Management across Domains
> Bringing together researchers working on the same problem without
realizing
> it.
>
> PURPOSE:
> DM> The purpose is to design and demonstrate a variety of techniques
to get
>
> physical space and semantic space to stay connected. The first attempt
will
> utilize Onuma Planning System in a series of BIMstorms and subsequent
> technologies to be determined as the problem becomes better defined."
>
> The statement may be able to be amended after the 21st if the
International
> Code Council is interested in participating. (I'm going to talk with
them
> that day about the fire stations)
>
> STATEMENT of WORK: (To be discussed relative to Mission Statement,
Above)
>
>
>
> ==================
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Peter
> Yim
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:46 AM
> To: Considine, Toby (Campus Services IT); Deborah MacPherson; Bob
Smith
> Cc: segun_alayande@xxxxxxx; Rex Brooks; Michelle Raymond; James Bryce
Clark
> Subject: Re: FW: I'd like to set up an Ontolog project
>
> Toby, Deborah, Bob, et al.,
>
> Rather than continuing to transact over this email shortlist, may I
> suggest you guys take one step back, form a "project" first, so that
> we can get the infrastructure in place so we can get all these
> exchanges captured and archived.
>
> We just need a project name, at least 3 proponents, a charter, and a
> open conference call for planning/constitution/organization/kick-off
> date.
>
> I can even get things started (mailing list, wiki page, etc.) if
> someone* can propose a name and then get it adopted by the folks here.
> ...
>
> Thanks & regards. =ppy
> --
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Deborah MacPherson <debmacp@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > RE: Emergency response, building type templates, and slides by Bob
Smith,
> > Rex Brooks and Michelle Raymond et al.
> >
> > Would it be a good idea to create a hospital template for BIMstorm
> because
> > this building type is further along to possibly reach out and
connect with
> > concurrent XML, OGC efforts?
> >
> > Just for kicks I tried matching up OCCS Table 11 Construction
Entities by
> > Function (attached) with Slide 36 ntis-gov:naics:1997. The
hierarchies are
> > inconsistent and do not match up between the ways architects vs ntis
> > classify facilities. Some folders in the slide are way down the list
in
> > Table 11 (not as many 00 at the end), others are lumped together
> differently
> > than the architects and AHJ (authorities having jurisdiction)
> documentation
> > will be organized.
> >
> > For a machine readable information model - I think it would be
worth
> > getting to one shared Table 11. If possible only to the second level
to
> > generally describe how buildings are occupied and used. Architects
and
> > Owners can define in more detail and the machine could just check on
the
> > first two or three pairs in a rapid pass over an area. Also not
captured
> by
> > our classes, which could be important in an emergency, is the times
of day
> > or seasons when occupancy is highest.
> >
> > Here is the study:
> >
> > Accommodation - 11 16 24 00 Hotels, 11 16 00 00 Residences higher
up is
> > more realistic
> >
> > Food Service - 11 17 24 24 Dining Establishments, Retail Commercial
11 17
> > 24 00 is better
> >
> > Waste Management - 11 43 00 00 Waste Management
> >
> > Remediation - maybe 11 43 21 14 Special Waste Reclamation
> >
> > Agriculture - 11 21 21 00 Agricultural
> >
> > Forestry - 11 21 21 27 Forestry and Timber Fabrication
> >
> > Fishing and Hunting - 11 15 11 00 Outdoor Recreation
> >
> > Arts 11 14 00 00 Cultural Facilities or 11 14 21 00 Museums? 11 11
21 17
> > Performing Arts or 11 11 21 14 Exhibition Hall? The second set 11
11 21
> are
> > assembly facilities not cultural, it does not matter what the
occupants
> are
> > doing inside and valuable objects are likely to be temporary unlike
a
> > museum. The finer points to an architect or owner is not the same as
how
> > many people and irreplaceable objects are in there right now?
> >
> > Entertainment - 11 11 21 00 Entertainment, within assembly because
likely
> > to be either at capacity or nearly empty. This building type in 11
11 21
> > should be directly tied to current event schedules and times.
> >
> > Recreation - 11 15 00 00 Recreation
> >
> > Construction - like the cobblers children with no shoes,
in-construction
> or
> > temporary constructions do not appear to be covered. Some facilities
might
> > fall under 11 24 00 00 Storage but will not be on the site when
> construction
> > is completed. Progress photos would document if necessary.
> >
> > Educational Services - 11 12 00 00 Learning, broken down by
occupants
> ages
> >
> > Finance - 11 17 21 00 Exchanges and Markets or 11 17 21 14 Bank
> >
> > Insurance - 11 17 11 00 Offices
> >
> > Heath Care - 11 13 24 00 Health
> >
> > Social Assistance - 11 13 27 00 Public Welfare
> >
> > Information - 11 44 00 00 Information Management
> >
> > Companies and Enterprises - 11 17 11 00 Offices
> >
> > Manufacturing - 11 21 11 00 Manufacturing
> >
> > Mining - 11 21 24 00 Mineral Extraction
> >
> > Scientific - 11 12 27 00 Research
> >
> > Technical - 11 44 00 00 Information Management or 11 12 27 00
Research or
> >
> > Public Administration - 11 13 00 00 Public Service
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Considine, Toby (Campus Services IT)
> > <Toby.Considine@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Expanding Conversation to include Segun...who should have been in
from
> > start...
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> >
> > >
> > > "When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long
and so
> > regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which
has
> opened
> > for us." -- Alexander Graham Bell
> > > ________________________________
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Toby Considine
> > >
> > > Chair, OASIS oBIX TC
> > > Facilities Technology Office
> > > University of North Carolina
> > > Chapel Hill, NC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Email: Toby.Considine@ unc.edu
> > > Phone: (919)962-9073
> > >
> > > http://www.oasis-open.org
> > >
> > > blog: www.NewDaedalus.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Deborah MacPherson [mailto:debmacp@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:45 PM
> > > To: Rex Brooks
> > > Cc: Michelle Raymond; Bob Smith; Peter Yim; Considine, Toby
(Campus
> > Services IT); James Bryce Clark
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: I'd like to set up an Ontolog project
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Rex and all,
> > >
> > > I put together the attached table for BIMstorm New Orleans in an
attempt
> > to map between three classification systems used for building
> architecture:
> > >
> > > - UniFormat which matches up nicely with early design, pricing,
and
> > BIMstorm models which are defined in terms of spaces, use groups,
and
> > building types but the materials and facility performance
requirements are
> > not pinned down yet.
> > >
> > > - MasterFormat which is typically used for construction documents.
> > >
> > > - OmniClass which is comprised of 15 interrelated tables that
"contain"
> > the two systems above and is meant to cover the full spectrum of the
built
> > environment.
> > >
> > > There is a system of delimiters that uses standard keyboard
symbols to
> > extend from UniFormat to MasterFormat. I am sure the same extension
> process
> > could be used to eventually reach across all 3 classification
systems as
> > design phases are completed.
> > >
> > > The right side of the attached table is meant to reach out to
standards
> > and industry tests that pertain to a row IE: Concrete can be
represented
> in
> > all 3 classification systems pretty easily, there are certain ASTM
tests
> for
> > structural concrete versus another type of concrete.
> > >
> > > When the row is about the information itself rather than a real
world
> > thing like an HVAC system, I'm trying to work in the proper
standards with
> > the same approach. There are certain areas that would branch out to
> > standards such as OGC and OASIS that I am trying to figure out.
What is
> > shown here was just a guess and I would love to get the right
references,
> or
> > rather, more precise references the same as ASTM is not a meaningful
> > reference, but a particular test and what the acceptable results are
> really
> > does relate to a certain type of material, system, or level of
> performance.
> > >
> > > The table attached is only one small manageable chunk to represent
a
> > typical building and try to get to a typical set of standards that
are
> more
> > understandable. To do this right would be to develop a full
"template"
> with
> > all OCCS (10,000? 20,000? classes), all UniFormat (+/- 100 classes),
all
> > MF2004 (+/- 6,000 classes). Accuracy&Aesthetics would be happy to
take
> this
> > on but we need a new computer and a couple modeling products.
> > >
> > > I have a meeting at the International Code Council (ICC) on the
21st to
> > discuss filling in the right side of the attached. The initial
reaction is
> > that the building codes can't be filled in without the use groups
defined
> > because there are far too many codes and they have to be narrowed
down -
> > which is done by use group and sometimes geographic location
depending on
> > the building code, jurisdiction, what is being tested and so on. Its
very
> > complex and will end up looking like a bowl of spaghetti but I think
its
> > possible to find your way through for certain types of building
designs
> that
> > share requirements or jurisdictions.
> > >
> > > I started working on this for BIMstorm because I want to know
where
> > contract documents that are not drawings or the classifiable
technical
> > sections actually "live in a BIM". I'm making an assumption any type
of
> > project would use the same "front end" for contracts and
construction. I
> > think the BIM is made in Divisions 00 (procurement) and 01 (general
> > requirements) during a project using UniFormat and MasterFormat that
> > describe the building properly, then all BIMs live on and can be
> distributed
> > in MF2004 "27 20 00 Data" and OCCS "36 24 24 00 Models" either
literally
> > within the building engineers office computer but also in the
project
> > records of the model itself, and other places that need to refer to
this
> > building and building model.
> > >
> > > I have some maps I'm working on to depict a typical firestation
template
> > in BIMstorm if you would like to see them.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Deborah
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Rex Brooks <rexb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> > > > As busy as we've been with the OASIS Symposium, 5thSOA4EGov
Conference
> > and NIST Interoperability Week-Ontology Summit (and the
Collaborative
> > Expedition Workshop on Identity in Emergency Mgt) and the 2008
Semantic
> > Technology Conference, I didn't want to let this slip through the
> > ever-so-slight gaps between and amongst these overlapping
communities of
> > interest.
> > > >
> > > > With the advent of CityGML
> > http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/requests/47 I think the time
is
> upon
> > us to add Building/Environmental Informatics to Emergency Management
and
> > Health Informatics as the three domains that MUST be included in any
> > comprehensive Emergency Preparedness and Response Ontology Project.
I also
> > think that such a project should include a glossary/mapping
between/among
> > various OpenGeospatail Consortium and OASIS Standards. Since we are
> working
> > this intersection in the OASIS Emergency Mgt TC, and it specifically
> applies
> > to the EDXL-Reference Information Model (EDXL-RIM) which we are
kicking
> off
> > now, this is very timely.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Rex
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 5:52 PM -0500 3/14/08, Michelle Raymond wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Bob (and Toby, Rex, Peter, Deborah and Jamie),
> > > > >
> > > > > I too am interested and would be happy to help formulate a
project.
> > However, as
> > > > > my primary employer, Honeywell is also interested, I must
confer
> with
> > > > > them as to what I can bring to the table and whether or not I
can be
> a
> > > > > the table.
> > > > >
> > > > > The good news: (as I see it at this moment)
> > > > > 1) Within Honeywell, the BIM, NBIMS, SmartBuilding, etc. is
gaining
> > great
> > > > > attention and probable traction and oBIX is of interest,
although in
> a
> > > > > more direct
> > > > > and limited manner. This means some knowledge exchange will
likely
> be
> > not only
> > > > > sanctioned, but encouraged.
> > > > > 2) The Ontolog-Forum IPR agreement seems not to have the
scoping
> issue
> > that is
> > > > > currently preventing me from membership in OASIS. Thus, I am
likely
> to
> > > > > be cleared
> > > > > by a Honeywell IP lawyer to participate. (This is neccesary
because
> of
> > the non-
> > > > > compete during duration of employment and IP protection
clauses in
> my
> > > > > employment contract.)
> > > > > 3) Some of the work I've done, outside the perview of my
primary
> > employer, to
> > > > > encourage exchange of Facility Contiginency Plans and
formulate
> > cross-company
> > > > > Geographic based Emergency Response Operations, may be of use
in
> > tackling a
> > > > > little chunk of defining informational interoperability
between
> > > > > different domains.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll talk to a Honeywell IP lawyer next week, as I'm due to
revisit
> > > > > the OASIS issues
> > > > > anyway. But please note that I won't be available for more
than a
> > > > > smidgin of active
> > > > > participation until mid-May.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Michelle Raymond
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/14/08, Bob Smith <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Toby,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am interested in joining an Ontolog Project around your
> proposal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As I recall, as soon as we get 3 members, we got a Project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who else is interested?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bob Smith,
> > > > > > Tall Tree Labs
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 11:40 AM -0800 3/14/08, Peter Yim wrote:
> > > > > > >Toby et al.,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >This is marvelous!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >By copying the other 3 people who may have a similar
interest
> > > > > > >(Deborah, Michelle and Bob) who were at Jamie's session
> yesterday,
> > you
> > > > > > >might get enough spark to really get something going at
Ontolog.
> > Feel
> > > > > > >free to ping me (everyone) if there is anything I can do
to help
> > with
> > > > > > >this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >As I mentioned yesterday, starting a project/initiative at
> Ontolog
> > is
> > > > > > >almost identical to starting a TC at OASIS (and you all
know the
> > > > > > >drill). Ref.
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidK
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >All the best. =ppy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >P.S. By the way, welcome to the Ontolog community, Toby!
> > > > > > >--
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Considine, Toby (Campus
> Services
> > IT)
> > > > > > ><Toby.Considine@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I have multiple potential participants in a project on
> defining
> > the
> > > > > > surfaces
> > > > > > >> between control systems and the outside world. The goal
is to
> > define
> > > > > > >> informational interoperability different domains with
quite
> > different
> > > > > > needs.
> > > > > > >> Traditional integrations have been process oriented and
> > therefore
> > > > > > difficult
> > > > > > >> and requiring deep domain knowledge.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The surfaces that come to mind quickly are:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Building Systems - Design Intents (NBIMS)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Building Systems - Energy Models (NBIMS)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Building Systems - Enterprise Operations
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Building Systems - Power Grid (Demand - Response)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Building Systems - Building Systems (decomposition of
> > over-integrated
> > > > > > >> systems)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Building Systems - Building Informatics
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Building Systems - Remote analytics è Maintenance
Management
> > systems
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Each of these implies one or several IDMs, to fit into
one or
> > several
> > > > > > >> ontological frameworks
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> The current participants, spread around the world, do
not
> seem
> > to want,
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > >> this time, as heavy a participation as the traditional
OASIS
> > model
> > > > > > requires,
> > > > > > >> although some may want to go there eventually.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I filled out my questionnaire this morning. I had
though that
> I
> > had done
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > >> long ago.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> tc
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> ________________________________
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil
to one
> > who is
> > > > > > striking
> > > > > > >> at the root." -- David Thoreau
> > > > > > >> ________________________________
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Toby Considine
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Chair, OASIS oBIX TC
> > > > > > >> Facilities Technology Office
> > > > > > >> University of North Carolina
> > > > > > >> Chapel Hill, NC
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Email: Toby.Considine@ unc.edu
> > > > > > >> Phone: (919)962-9073
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> http://www.oasis-open.org
> > > > > > >> http://www.NewDaedalus.com
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rex Brooks
> > > > President, CEO
> > > > Starbourne Communications Design
> > > > GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison
> > > > Berkeley, CA 94702
> > > > Tel: 510-898-0670
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Specifier, WDG Architecture PLLC
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