UBL-Ontology Project Conference Call - Thu 2003-09-18 (7L9)
Conference Call Details (7LA)
- Subject: [UblOntology] project conference call Thu 2003-09-18 (7LB)
- Comments/Agenda: (7LC)
- Agenda Comments: ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items. (7LD)
- Please post you suggested agenda items if you would like to see anything put onto the agenda (7LE)
- please post or upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by ftp upload prior to the meeting (7LF)
- VNC session will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/ (7LG)
- During the call, please browse the wiki page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Conference_Call_2003-09-18 (7LJ)
- Date: Thursday, Sep. 18, 2003 (7LK)
- Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time (7LL)
- End Time: 11:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time (7LM)
- Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada) (7LN)
- Participant Access Code: "030918#" (7LO)
Attendees (7LP)
- Attended: (7LQ)
- Regrets: (7LW)
Agenda Ideas (7LZ)
Agenda & Proceedings (7M0)
1) Welcome (7M1)
- KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone (7M2)
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes (7M3)
3) Roll-call of participants (7M5)
4) Face-to-face meeting (November 5-8, 2003) (7M7)
- a. Tutorials (7M8)
- b. Saturday meeting place (7M9)
- c. virtual participation encouraged for all who cannot attend physically. (7MA)
discussion on the above postponed. (7MB)
5) Communication logistics & work protocols (7MC)
- a. Messages without subjects (7MD)
- above problem brought up by Kurt may possibly be just a confined issue with his particular mail client. Netscape and message archive seem to be doing OK. (7ME)
- b. Formalization process debate: KIF vs Protege, et. al. (7MF)
- PatCassidy confirms his agreement to SUO-KIF being normative and to the statement on the earlier Levels of Specifications post. He will continue to seek improvements on Protege to capture and handle KIF-based axioms, which he will initially capture as PAL constraints. (7MG)
- c. Sigma tool (7MH)
discussion on the above postponed. (7MI)
6) Use cases (http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases) (7MJ)
- a. PO / Invoice reconciliation (7MK)
- b. Context-sensitive address rules (7ML)
- c. Mapping between representations (7MM)
discussion on the above postponed. (7MN)
7) Formalization issues (7MO)
- we still need to properly define the process, even given the KIF is the normative deliverable, how about: (7MP)
- (1) where the Developer ("person putting in effort to construct the ubl-ontology") feels comfortable with a bi-directional conversion, he/she can start on either tool (KIF or Protege) (7MQ)
- (2) where "representation" would be constraint, the Developer must default to recording the concept in KIF (7MR)
- (3) and if something is misconstrued in (2), someone very proficient with KIF can come in and clean up to keep the work pure and honest (7MS)
- PatCassidy: issue - what to do - abstract document vs physical documents (7MT)
- PatCassidy: issue - time and priority (7MU)
- (7MV)
- Pat is planning to use this bi-directional mapping as his java programming exercisde as well. (7MW)
8) Sponsorship and funding (7MX)
- a. Inventory NIST contacts (7MY)
- (7MZ)
- Mark Palmer (7N0)
- Craig Schlenoff - Chair for the "Knowledge Representation and Ontology for Autonomous Systems" track for "2004 AAAI Spring Symposium" (Stanford, Mar. 2004) (7N1)
- Pat suggests that's there's probably another group in NIST that is working on ontologies. Try Stephen Ray. (7N2)
- Peter: we would probably need to coordinate our efforts so that developing NIST as a potential funding source for our work becomes a win-win situation, rather than a zero-sum game for ontolog-members. (7N3)
9) Other business (7N4)
- Peter suggested that one of these days, we should take inventory of the skill sets that members of the community would bring to the table. (7N5)
- in view of the attendance at the call, maybe we should try to find out what would be a time most people *can* make, rather than keeping it as Thu 10:30am PDT. Kurt will make a post about this. (7N6)
10) Next meeting date and adjourn (7N7)
-- minutes captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim / 2003-09-18_11:39_PDT (7NA)