UBL-Ontology Project Conference Call - Thu 2003-04-03 (62Q)
- Conference Call Details: (62R)
- Subject: [ubl-ontology] project conference call (62S)
- Comments/Agenda: (62T)
- Agenda Comments: ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items. (62U)
- Please post you suggested agenda items if you would like to see anything put onto the agenda (62V)
- please post or upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by ftp upload prior to the meeting (62W)
- VNC session will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc3.cim3.net:5800/ (62X)
- During the call, please browse the wiki page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Conference_Call_2003-04-03 (630)
- Date:Thursday, April 03, 2003 (631)
- Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Std Time (632)
- End Time: 11:25 AM Pacific Std Time (633)
- Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada) (634)
- Participant Access Code: "030403" (635)
- Attendees: - expecting - (636)
Agenda Ideas (63G)
Meeting Details (63J)
Date: Thursday, April 03, 2003 Start Time: 10:30 am PST / 1:30pm EST End Time: 11:00 PST (reserved to 11:55 a.m. PST) Attended by: 8 (63K)
Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada) Access Code: 030403 (63L)
VNC URL: http://vnc3.cim3.net:5800 View-Only Password: "ontolog" View-and-Control PW: "ontology" (63M)
Meeting Wiki: (63N)
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Conference_Call_2003-04-03 (63O)
Agenda (63P)
1) Welcome (63Q)
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes (63R)
3) Roll-call of participants (63S)
4) Communication logistics & work protocols (63T)
a. HotDAML Newsletter formatting (63U)
6) Wrap-Up on proposed methodologies (63V)
7) Use cases (63W)
a. Present the proper address formats when a purchase order from a UK buyer is placed with a supplier in Japan (63X)
8) Feedback to UBL committee (63Y)
a. Feedback window closes on 2003.04.14 b. UBL TC Meeting in London: 2003.04.29-05.02 c. Goal: Someone to deliver a brief of findings and recommendations (63Z)
9) Status of analysis and formalization of UBL models (640)
10) Tasking (641)
a. Previous assignments b. New assignments (642)
11) Other Business (643)
Proceedings (644)
1) Welcome (645)
- (646)
- KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone. (647)
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes (648)
3) Roll-call of participants (64B)
4) Communication logistics & work protocols (64L)
a. HotDAML Newsletter formatting (64M)
- (64N)
- LeoObrst has re-posted it (64O)
- PeterYim suggested people use the file-sharing space for sharing large files. (see earlier post) (64P)
6) Wrap-Up on proposed methodologies (64Q)
- (64R)
- we'll start with the ontology 101 approach, using the first 5 steps (64S)
- KurtConrad suggests we inherit from the UBL work (64T)
- AdamPease reiterated that we should narrow down the scope and work on, say, "invoice" (64U)
- BillMcCarthy suggest we'd be 100 feet above ground and do a few documents, instead of just one. (64V)
- BillMcCarthy would volunteer to do "purchase orders" (64W)
- we'll hopefully be able solicit someone froom the forum to do "shipping documents" as well. (64X)
- mapping to upper ontology as part of the methodology (like AdamPease's suggestion that we link to SUMO) -- LeoObrst agrees it's a good exercise; AdamPease feels more strongly about it's value and cites a study which he will post the link to the forum. (64Y)
- LeoObrst will make a post to start a thread, and AdamPease will make a proposal to map to SUMO (e.g. as oppose to OpenCYC) (64Z)
- KurtConrad also suggest that LeoObrst might make a post to bring closure to the methodology discussion (650)
7) Use cases (651)
a. Present the proper address formats when a purchase order from a UK buyer is placed with a supplier in Japan (652)
- (653)
- PeterYim stated that this case was first brought up by SueProbert at an earlier UBL-LCSC-QA meeting (654)
- this is in reference to the eventuality that UBL will have to provide a context methodology (655)
- MonicaMartin will make a post to let everyoine know of what the 8 context drivers are, as defined in ebXML/UBL. (see post) (656)
8) Feedback to UBL committee (657)
a. Feedback window closes on 2003.04.14 b. UBL TC Meeting in London: 2003.04.29-05.02 c. Goal: Someone to deliver a brief of findings and recommendations (658)
- (659)
- we might not be able to make any of the above, given this late date, and seemingly, no one on the call will be attending the London meeting in person. (65A)
9) Status of analysis and formalization of UBL models (65B)
- (65C)
- AdamPease has done and posted work mapping the UBL inovice to SUMO (65D)
- Tools Choice: (65E)
- Ontoligua / Chimaera - not a lot of help in authoring, good support for browsing after the ontology has been modeled (65F)
- AdamPease: Protege has their own frame model and maps to OKBC; great for ontology prototyping (65G)
- OILed - can allow creation of axioms ... (65H)
- KIF has the expressiveness ... (65I)
- Protege has pluggins to allow it to generate XML schemas ... (65J)
- Teknowledge has a DAML generator ... on GNU license (65K)
10) Tasking (65L)
11) Other Business (65P)
minutes captured in real time during the call by PeterYim on the wiki ppy/4.3.03-11:33 (65T)