OntologySummit2014 session-03 Track-B: Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques - I - Thu 2014-01-30    (454U)

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Abstract    (4555)

Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques – I ... intro slides    (4556)

This is our 9th OntologySummit, a joint initiative by Ontolog, NIST, NCOR, NCBO, IAOA & NCO_NITRD with the support of our co-sponsors.    (4557)

Since the beginnings of the Semantic Web, ontologies have played key roles in the design and deployment of new semantic technologies. Yet over the years, the level of collaboration between the Semantic Web and Applied Ontology communities has been much less than expected. Within Big Data applications, ontologies appear to have had little impact.    (454T)

This year's Ontology Summit is an opportunity for building bridges between the Semantic Web, Linked Data, Big Data, and Applied Ontology communities. On the one hand, the Semantic Web, Linked Data, and Big Data communities can bring a wide array of real problems (such as performance and scalability challenges and the variety problem in Big Data) and technologies (automated reasoning tools) that can make use of ontologies. On the other hand, the Applied Ontology community can bring a large body of common reusable content (ontologies) and ontological analysis techniques. Identifying and overcoming ontology engineering bottlenecks is critical for all communities.    (456A)

OntologySummit2014 will pose and address the primary challenges in these areas of interaction among the different communities. The Summit activities will bring together insights and methods from these different communities, synthesize new insights, and disseminate knowledge across field boundaries.    (456B)

Session Details    (4558)

At the Launch Event on 16 Jan 2014, the organizing team provided an overview of the program, and how we will be framing the discourse. Today's session (OntologySummit2014 session-03) is the first virtual panel session featured by Track-B, which focuses on "Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques."    (4559)

This session begins with an introduction to the research questions we are interested in; in short: what potential has Big Data for ontology-based services, and how can ontology tools and techniques be scaled to the Semantic Web and Big Data. The first full presentation presents how a concrete environment that has so far integrated a wide range of tools for reasoning with ontologies "in the small" is currently being scaled to the Web. The second presentation showcases the potential of linking Big Data to ontologies in the case of IBM's Watson natural language question answering engine. The third presentation reviews OWL from the perspective of engineering knowledge-rich systems and discusses alternative modeling techniques.    (457Q)

After the panelists briefings, there will be time for Q&A and an open discussion among the panel and all participants.    (4580)

See more details at: OntologySummit2014 (homepage for this summit)    (455B)

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OntologySummit2014 session-02 Track-B: Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques - I    (455I)

Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call    (455J)

Proceedings    (43XA)

Please refer to the above    (456C)

IM Chat Transcript captured during the session:    (456D)

 see raw transcript here.    (456E)
 (for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)
 Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.    (456F)
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	Chat transcript from room: summit_20140130
	2014-01-30 GMT-08:00 [PST]
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	[8:50] PeterYim: Welcome to the    (45HO)
	 = OntologySummit2014 session-03 Track-B: Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques - I - Thu 2014-01-30 =    (45HP)
	Summit Theme: Summit Theme: OntologySummit2014: "Big Data and Semantic Web Meet Applied Ontology"    (45HQ)
	Session Topic: Track-B: Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques - I    (45HR)
	Session Co-chairs: Dr. ChristophLange (University of Bonn / Fraunhofer IAIS), Professor AlanRector (University of Manchester)    (45HS)
	Briefings:    (45HT)
	* Professor TillMossakowski (University of Magdeburg) - "Challenges in Scaling Tools for Ontologies 
	   to the Semantic Web: Experiences with Hets and OntoHub"    (45HU)
	* Dr. ChrisWelty (IBM Research) - "Semantic Technology in Watson"    (45HV)
	* Professor AlanRector (University of Manchester) - "Axioms & Templates: Distinctions & 
	   Transformations amongst Ontologies, Frames, & Information Models - or - OWL, UML, and Frames"    (45HW)
	Logistics:    (45HX)
	* Refer to details on session page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_01_30    (45HY)
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	Attendees: AbhayKashyap, AlanRector, AleksandraSojic, AliHashemi, AmandaVizedom, AnatolyLevenchuk, 
	AndreaWesterinen, AndreaWesterinen, BartGajderowicz, CarmenChui, ChrisWelty, ChristineKapp, 
	ChristophLange, ConradBeaulieu, DanielMcShan, DennisWisnosky, DennisPierson, EarlGlynn, EarlGlynn, 
	EdBernot, ElizabethFlorescu, EricChan, FranLightsom, GarrettClarke, GaryBergCross, GenZou, 
	HaroldBoley, HensonGraves, JamesOverton, JeffCox, JensOrtmann, JohnMcClure, JulienCorman, 
	KenBaclawski, LamarHenderson, LeoObrst, LesMorgan, LianaKiff, MarciaZeng, MariaPoveda, MarkFox, 
	MatthewLange, MeganKatsumi, MichaelGruninger, MikeBennett, MikeDean, NancyWiegand, OliverKutz, 
	OndrejZamazal, PeterMidford, PeterYim, RamSriram, SimonSpero, SundayOjo, TaraAthan, TerryLongstreth, 
	TillMossakowski, TimDarr, TimFinin, ToddSchneider, TorstenHahmann, VictorAgroskin,    (45I3)
	 == Proceedings ==    (45I4)
	[8:59] anonymous morphed into MarciaZeng    (45I5)
	[9:18] anonymous morphed into ChrisWelty (1)    (45I6)
	[9:18] Chris Welty (1) morphed into ChrisWelty    (45I7)
	[9:22] ChrisWelty: hello    (45I8)
	[9:23] PeterYim: Hi Chris, Hi Alan, Hi Oliver    (45I9)
	[9:23] ChrisWelty: hi peter    (45IA)
	[9:23] ChrisWelty: anything i need to do?    (45IB)
	[9:25] ChrisWelty: is it preferable for me to join by skype or phone?    (45IC)
	[9:27] PeterYim: Yes, Chris ... please use a land-line if you can    (45ID)
	[9:28] GaryBergCross: Settings can also be used to show timestamps so we can indicate what time the 
	comment we are responding to was made. It helps tracking conversation threads.    (45IE)
	[9:29] anonymous1 morphed into LesMorgan    (45IF)
	[9:30] anonymous morphed into CarmenChui    (45IG)
	[9:30] anonymous morphed into JeffCox    (45IH)
	[9:30] AmandaVizedom morphed into AmandaVizedom    (45II)
	[9:30] Alan Rector (2) morphed into AlanRector    (45IJ)
	[9:32] anonymous1 morphed into EarlGlynn    (45IK)
	[9:32] anonymous morphed into MarkFox    (45IL)
	[9:32] anonymous morphed into JulienCorman    (45IM)
	- [9:32] AmandaVizedom: Peter, your instructions are currently very hard to hear over background white-noise    (45IN)
	- [9:33] AmandaVizedom: white-noise now gone    (45IO)
	[9:34] anonymous1 morphed into PEM    (45IP)
	[9:34] PeterYim: == ChristophLange starts the session on behalf of the Track-B session co-champions 
	... see slides under: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_01_30#nid4564    (45IQ)
	[9:37] anonymous morphed into AleksandraSojic    (45IR)
	[9:38] anonymous1 morphed into OndrejZamazal    (45IS)
	[9:38] anonymous2 morphed into TimDarr    (45IT)
	[9:39] anonymous morphed into ToddSchneider    (45IU)
	[9:40] anonymous morphed into ConradBeaulieu    (45IV)
	[9:40] PEM morphed into PeterMidford    (45IW)
	- [9:41] PeterYim: @PEM ... kindly morph into your real name (in WikiWord format, preferably) for attribution purposes    (45IX)
	- [9:41] PeterYim: @PeterMidford ... thank you (you beat me to it!)    (45IY)
	[9:41] PeterYim: == TillMossakowski presenting ...    (45IZ)
	[9:43] anonymous morphed into DennisPierson    (45J0)
	[9:43] PeterYim: @Christoph ... there are about 10 people on the conference bridge (voice) who are 
	not in the chat-room yet ... in between speakers, please prompt them to join us in the chat-room too 
	(see details at the top of the session page)    (45J1)
	[9:44] ChristophLange: @PeterYim: OK, will do ASAP    (45J2)
	[9:43] anonymous morphed into LamarHenderson    (45J3)
	- [9:47] PeterYim: ... on slide#11 now    (45J4)
	[9:47] ChristophLange: ref. AlanBundy, the ontology researcher who TillMossakowski mentioned on 
	slide#9 - see: http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/bundy/    (45J5)
	[9:48] anonymous morphed into TorstenHahmann    (45J6)
	[9:56] anonymous morphed into AbhayKashyap    (45J7)
	[9:49] ChristophLange: GitHub as mentioned by TillMossakowski on slide#12: http://github.com    (45J8)
	- [9:52] AmandaVizedom: on slide 14 now    (45J9)
	[9:53] JensOrtmann: what does MMT stand for?    (45JA)
	[9:54] ChristophLange: re:MMT (slide#14) Module System for Mathematical Theories: 
	https://svn.kwarc.info/repos/MMT/doc/html/index.html    (45JB)
	[9:54] JensOrtmann: ok great thank you!    (45JC)
	[9:55] TillMossakowski: (slide#15) correction, url should be: 
	http://ontohub.org/colore/algebra/vectorspace.clif    (45JD)
	[9:57] TaraAthan: The link http://ontohub.org/colore/algebra/vectorspace.xml provides metadata for 
	the CLIF ontology in an XML format, not an XML-serialization of the axioms.    (45JE)
	[9:58] anonymous morphed into MatthewLange    (45JF)
	[9:59] ChristophLange: slide#16: OOPS Ontology Pitfall Scanner 
	( http://oeg-lia3.dia.fi.upm.es/webOOPS/catalogue.jsp )    (45JG)
	[10:00] MariaPoveda: or http://www.oeg-upm.net/oops/    (45JH)
	[10:00] MariaPoveda: you can use http://www.oeg-upm.net/oops/ that is independent of the server it 
	is installed in    (45JI)
	[9:59] MariaPoveda: :-/ please let me know every time you have problems with OOPS! services    (45JJ)
	[10:00] ChristophLange: In fact MariaPoveda will present in our 13 March session    (45JK)
	[9:59] GaryBergCross: @Till Great connection to the semantic content reuse topic of Track A.    (45JL)
	[10:03] GaryBergCross: @Till when you get a chance can you provide some more references/links to the 
	tools and technology you mentioned. We can eventually get these into our library too...    (45JM)
	[10:03] TillMossakowski: http://hets.dfki.de, http://ontohub.org    (45JN)
	[10:01] anonymous morphed into GarrettClarke    (45JO)
	[10:02] anonymous morphed into LamarHenderson    (45JP)
	[10:04] RamSriram: Worth looking at http://asterixdb.ics.uci.edu/ for "BIG ONTOLOGIES"    (45JQ)
	[10:05] MariaPoveda: @TillMossakowski do you know http://neon-toolkit.org/wiki/KC-Viz ? it is for 
	getting the key concepts from an ontology, it might be a first step for the summarization    (45JR)
	[10:05] MariaPoveda: sorry, for splitting    (45JS)
	[10:05] TillMossakowski: thanks, I do not know it, will have a look    (45JT)
	[10:06] MariaPoveda: there are also plugins for modularization 
	http://neon-toolkit.org/wiki/Ontology_Module_Extraction and 
	http://neon-toolkit.org/wiki/Ontology_Module_Partition    (45JU)
	[10:07] ChristophLange: @MariaPoveda: I assume that most of these modules are specific to OWL, right?    (45JV)
	[10:11] MariaPoveda: right    (45JW)
	[10:13] AmandaVizedom: @MariaPoveda, am I right in recalling that the NeOn work is specifically for DL?
	Or has it expanded?    (45JX)
	[10:16] MariaPoveda: @AmandaVizedom I'm not 100% sure ( :( ) but I think you are right    (45JY)
	[10:16] TillMossakowski: I think that NeOn also covers F-logic.    (45JZ)
	[10:21] MariaPoveda: sorry, I can't find any information about it, my experience with NeOn was only about OWL    (45K0)
	[10:24] AlanRector: Actually NeOn is at least as much about F-Logic as OWL, and supports a number of 
	different paradigms. My link is EnricoMotta at the Open University for details e.motta [at] open.ac.uk    (45K1)
	[10:03] PeterYim: == ChrisWelty presenting ...    (45K2)
	[10:28] ChristophLange: important background info by ChrisWelty about slide#17: the average named 
	entity refers to 5 distinct things    (45K3)
	[10:28] AlanRector: For modularization, see also the modularization tools at 
	owl.cs.manchester.ac.uk. There is a whole subfield on how to break OWL ontologies down into modules, 
	where "module" is used explicitly as meaning a subontology for a "signature" - i.e. a set of entity 
	symbols - such that all inferences amongst the members of the signature that would be made in the 
	entire ontology will be made in the sub-ontology/module.    (45K4)
	[10:30] AmandaVizedom: for @ChrisWelty: <laughter at the empty slide#25>    (45K5)
	[10:31] ChristineKapp: @ChrisWelty: I'm sure it was just white font <more laughter>    (45K6)
	[10:31] PeterYim: re: slide#25 not showing up properly in the pdf version ... I have now posted 
	ChrisWelty's original version in ppsx - 
	see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_01_30#nid4564    (45K7)
	[11:16] PeterYim: @ChrisWelty [10:30] and All, I have made an attempt to correct the problematic pdf 
	conversion of your (Welty) slides, and have swapped that in ... slides 17, 22 & 25 now shows the 
	correct image in the [2-Welty] slide deck now 
	at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_01_30#nid4564    (45K8)
	[10:33] AmandaVizedom: "Part of system is understanding just how complete or incomplete a source is 
	when it comes to providing a certain type of evidence" - @ChrisWelty, discussing slide 26. I 
	appreciate this meta-knowledge use; it is so critical for useful info systems of many types.    (45K9)
	- [10:33] ChrisWelty stepping out for 2 mins for a bio-break    (45KA)
	- [10:40] ChrisWelty is back    (45KB)
	[10:40] GenZou: @ChrisWelty: What do you think are the advantages and disadvantages of converting 
	natural language queries to formal queries and answer them by reasoning? Why did not Watson also use 
	it as one option to get answers?    (45KC)
	[10:42] ChrisWelty: converting nlp to logic is impossible to do reliably, and the knowledge needed 
	to answer is not represented in logic, its in text    (45KD)
	[10:49] GenZou: @ChrisWelty: IC. Does Watson use any other kinds of ontological reasoning besides 
	spatial reasoning and temporal reasoning to score the answers or for other tasks?    (45KE)
	[10:33] PeterYim: == AlanRector presenting ...    (45KF)
	[10:37] ChristophLange: AlanRector said about slide#3 that he works with "medium" rather than "big" 
	data (ontologies up to 1 million classes)    (45KG)
	[10:38] MatthewLange: Does anyone have a reference to the ICD-9/10 and modifications, which outlines 
	the changes @AlanRector is speaking of?    (45KH)
	[10:44] MariaPoveda: @MatthewLange I was not here when he referred to ICD-9/10, could be this 
	http://www.who.int/classifications/icd/en/ ?    (45KI)
	[10:44] TimFinin: +1 for Ontology != KB    (45KJ)
	[10:45] anonymous1 morphed into BartGajderowicz    (45KK)
	[10:46] ChristophLange: @MatthewLange, @MariaPoveda: I recall there were some publications on 
	formalising the ICD in OWL; was it this one? Manuel Moeller, Michael Sintek, Ralf Biedert, Patrick 
	Ernst, Andreas Dengel, Daniel Sonntag: Representing the International Classification of Diseases 
	Version 10 in OWL. KEOD 2010: 50-59 ( http://www.dfki.de/~sonntag/I3CK-selection-2012.pdf )    (45KL)
	[11:03] MatthewLange: @ChristophLange thanks for the link, but I was referring not to formalization 
	of ICD into OWL, but to the United states specific modifications to ICD that cast a wider, and 
	deeper net for US-specific things (like the NASA astronaut example...) @AlanRector, could you please 
	provide a reference when you are done speaking?    (45KM)
	[10:47] AmandaVizedom: Slide #7 seems to me to be a red herring. I would argue that one of those is 
	a confusion between mental objects and formal models, the other is a confusion between the reality 
	and the model. The latter is slightly mitigated by accepting the idea of contextualization by 
	application requirements, but that is not the "original" philosophical meaning (it's closer to the 
	idea of a scientific model in philosophy of science).    (45KN)
	[10:47] TillMossakowski: Isn't "Pneumonia may be caused by bacteria" also universal knowledge, but 
	the point is that it cannot be axiomatized in OWL, but needs a modal logic?    (45KO)
	[10:53] AmandaVizedom: @AlanRector, slide #10: at least some of this seems to be about, or dependent 
	on, particular representation choices (for example, the idea that template statements involve 
	primitive concepts only), even within the range of ontology languages. Your intro to it, however, 
	gave me the impression that you were trying to say something about types of information represented. 
	Can you explain?    (45KP)
	- [10:51] ChristophLange: slide#11    (45KQ)
	[10:56] AmandaVizedom: AlanRector, slide 11: quite true, though it's also true that in many 
	operational spaces, information artifacts are some of the things in the domain, and there may be a 
	need to represent our understanding of both some kinds of information artifacts and the things those 
	information artifacts are about. Problems come, I think, when people aren't really aware of which 
	they are doing when.    (45KR)
	[11:01] AndreaWesterinen: Slide #14, Although non-standard, there are reasoners/stores that do 
	integrity constraint checking via axioms (e.g., Stardog). This distinction was valuable.    (45KS)
	[11:02] AmandaVizedom: @AlanRector slide 14: This point about OWL domain and range constraints not 
	really being constraints (but rather axioms from which inferences can be drawn) is a such an 
	important point, and so insufficiently understood by many doing OWL modeling. IME (in my 
	experience), many people who do appreciate it end up putting their constraints into SPARQL queries, 
	losing any declarative representation of constraint relationship. Is that also what you see?    (45KT)
	[11:05] AmandaVizedom: @AlanRector, when done speaking, will you provide a reference for the Motik paper?    (45KU)
	- [11:06] ChristophLange: slide#20    (45KV)
	- [11:10] ChristophLange: slide#23    (45KW)
	[11:11] anonymous morphed into LamarHenderson    (45KX)
	[11:12] ChrisWelty: I have a hard stop at 14:30 EST (in ~20 mins)    (45KY)
	[11:14] GaryBergCross: @Alan, when you get a chance could you say a bit more about the tools you use 
	or are interested in?    (45KZ)
	[11:18] AlanRector: @GaryBergCross - as a quick caricature, the sort of tools I'd like to see is a 
	variant of Protege or the Neon or of a UML editor that expressed things in ways familiar to users 
	but then translated them into something like the representation in my presentation - typically 
	generating half-a-dozen axioms for each visible statement as seen by the user.    (45L0)
	[11:19] GaryBergCross: Alan Thank you. Do you think that controlled natural language tools can play 
	a role in getting started on KBs?    (45L1)
	[11:14] PeterYim: == Q & A and Open Discussion ...    (45L2)
	[11:14] PeterYim: ChristophLange - our focus: OntologySummit2014: "Big Data and Semantic Web Meet 
	Applied Ontology" - Track-B: Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques    (45L3)
	[11:15] ChristophLange: "big picture question": AlanRector asked the question whether "ontology" is 
	the same as "knowledge representation". Now from Watson it seems that offering knowledge-rich 
	services doesn't need ontologies or ontology languages in a traditional sense. On the other hand 
	there is a lot of work on improving ontology languages, as we heard from TillMossakowski, and there 
	are better ways of using OWL, as we heard from Alan. So let me ask: On the Web of Data, are 
	ontologies and ontology languages, and tools and techniques for them, are they still relevant?    (45L4)
	[11:15] ChrisWelty: was the question directed at a particular person?    (45L5)
	[11:15] MikeBennett: Surely "ontology" is a heteronym - it means both of the things stated (a 
	formal, decidable resource, and a formal representation of some business concepts).    (45L6)
	[11:16] AmandaVizedom: @AlanRector: re slide 23 and compositionality - to me, this is one issue that 
	makes me miss having functions (including those that result in a denotational term with a defined 
	relationship to their arguments) in an ontology language. Thoughts?    (45L7)
	[11:17] GaryBergCross: I took part of Alan's presentation to be (in a sense) that things like OWL 
	ontologies with axioms are relevant but not sufficient.    (45L8)
	- [11:20] TillMossakowski: sorry, just have lost my Skype connection when you asked your question, Christoph    (45L9)
	[11:21] ChristophLange: @TillMossakowski: my question was, as you certainly believe in the relevance 
	of (formal) ontology languages, whether you can imagine applications powered by big data, which the 
	integration of ontology languages enables    (45LA)
	[11:21] GaryBergCross: @ChristophLange +1 on your job of asking interesting, generative and relevant 
	questions to our speakers.    (45LB)
	[11:25] AmandaVizedom: @OliverKutz, perhaps it would be appropriate to mention the summit OntoHub 
	here, as somewhere Summit participants could go to try out these tools.    (45LC)
	[11:25] GaryBergCross: Isn't there a Protege plug-in for UML? Seems I heard of this.    (45LD)
	[11:25] TillMossakowski: I would be interested...    (45LE)
	[11:27] GaryBergCross: My [11:25] comment "The UML back-end plug-in provides an import and export 
	mechanism between the Protege knowledge model and the object-oriented modeling language UML. see 
	http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/UML_Backend    (45LF)
	[11:26] PeterMidford: @GaryBergCross - yes, but I think it is for Protege Frames, not the same as OWL.    (45LG)
	[11:26] MikeBennett: Re: Making OWL and UML inter-operable: is this because UML provides a better 
	means of providing visualization to business domain folks, or is it because you actually need a 
	model in the OO formalism of UML? If it's the former, why not use the ODM profile which lets you 
	render OWL constructs in a UML tool?    (45LH)
	[11:27] TillMossakowski: it is because OWL is used to ontological modeling, and UML for software engineering    (45LI)
	[11:27] TillMossakowski: these are two related but different things (I mean ontology and software engineering)    (45LJ)
	[11:31] MikeBennett: @Till thanks.    (45LK)
	[11:27] EricChan: Please include EricChan (I believe KenBaclawski will be interested) in the 
	proposed offline discussions on translation between UML and OWL. Ken and I have worked on this for 
	OASIS ICOM model.    (45LL)
	[11:38] TillMossakowski: @EricChan: works on OWL<->UML    (45LM)
	[11:39] MikeBennett: I would also like to be copied in on any UML to OWL mapping activities    (45LN)
	[11:28] JohnMcClure: my question for AlanRector is this: please discuss the impact on the vocabulary 
	of properties, as a result of reifying properties as classes -- does it essentially remove nouns 
	from the domain of properties, ending with just verbs + prepositions as properties???    (45LO)
	[11:28] AmandaVizedom: @ChrisWelty: is Wikidata being used for Watson at all?    (45LP)
	[11:30] TillMossakowski: @ChrisWelty: but for typing, you use subclass hierarchies, if I remember correctly?    (45LQ)
	[11:31] TillMossakowski: and then you could also use inferred subclass hierarchies?    (45LR)
	[11:31] GaryBergCross: (referring to MichaelGruninger's reference to "Spock" in his verbal comment 
	about ChrisWelty's remark) Next IBM advance would be called "Spock"???    (45LS)
	[11:32] MichaelGruninger: @GaryBergCross: no, my motto is "What would Spock do?"    (45LT)
	[11:32] EdBernot: Thanks all!    (45LU)
	[11:33] GaryBergCross: @ChristophLange, Thanks again for doing such a great job getting these 
	3 speakers and managing the session!    (45LV)
	[11:33] ChristophLange: @GaryBergCross: thank you!    (45LW)
	[11:33] ChristophLange: @PeterYim: Do we have a time limit?    (45LX)
	[11:33] PeterYim: feel free to go on for another 5 minutes (10 min. max)    (45LY)
	[11:37] SimonSpero: One place where KR and Big Data can be useful can be in aggregating and 
	classifying instances, so that less data needs to be captured for each data point, and subgroups can 
	be aggregated to get big enough counts for significance    (45LZ)
	[11:40] SimonSpero: For example if one wanted to estimate life times for optical media in real 
	situations, then some attribute may be constrained by manufacturer (e.g. dye types)    (45M0)
	[11:32] PeterYim: Please mark you calendars and reserve this time, every Thursday, for the 
	OntologySummit2014 virtual panel session series.In particular ... Session-04 will be up next 
	Thursday- Thu 2014.02.06 (same time) - Track C: Overcoming Ontology Engineering Bottlenecks-I - 
	see developing details at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_02_06    (45M1)
	[11:36] AnatolyLevenchuk: @all Remember about Hackathon event (track E): suggest your project 
	( http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014_Hackathon )!    (45M2)
	[11:40] GaryBergCross: Great session and lots to think about. The mail discussion should be useful.    (45M3)
	[11:40] PeterYim: -- session ended: 11:38 am PST --    (45M4)
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