OntologySummit2010: Panel Session-5 - "Synthesis" - Thu 4-Mar-2010    (2A4Z)

OntologySummit2010 Theme: "Creating the Ontologists of the Future"    (2A50)

Conference Call Details    (2A5G)

Attendees:    (2A6G)

Resources    (2A6U)

Theme: OntologySummit2010 - Creating the Ontologists of the Future    (2A7M)

This is our 5th Ontology Summit, a joint initiative by NIST, Ontolog, NCOR, NCBO and IAOA with the support of our co-sponsors. The theme adopted for this Ontology Summit is: "Creating the Ontologists of the Future" and was launched on 10-Dec-2009. Like previous years, this Ontology Summit will comprise of three months of virtual discourse, over our archived mailing lists, wiki, and virtual panel sessions (like this one), and will culminate in a 2-day face-to-face workshop/symposium to be held on Mon & Tue, 15 & 16-March-2010 at NIST (Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA.)    (2A7N)

We shall be spending time at this session to look through the survey results and make sense of of the collective community input. Each of our 3 survey/study designers will present the collected input, make a first cut synthesis, and, in particular identify specific input that might impact what we produce as our consolidated "training content" document.    (2A7Q)

The session will then go into Q&A and open discussion.    (2A8T)

Agenda & Proceedings:    (2A7R)

OntologySummit2010 - virtual panel-5 - Topic: "Synthesizing the Community Input"    (2A7S)

Transcript of the online chat during the session:    (2A82)

 see raw transcript here.    (2A83)
 (for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)
 Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.    (2A84)
    -- begin of chat session --    (2A85)
	Welcome to the OntologySummit2010: Panel Session-5 - "Synthesis" - Thu 4-Mar-2010    (2BV2)
	OntologySummit2010 Theme: "Creating the Ontologists of the Future"    (2BV3)
	* Panel Session-5 Topic: "Synthesizing the Community Input"    (2BV4)
	* Chair: Dr. SteveRay    (2BV5)
	* Panelists: o Dr. AmandaVizedom - "What Are We Training For?" (Reporting on Requirements Survey-2 
	Results) o Professor ArturoSanchez & Dr. AntonyGalton - "State of Ontologist Education and Training" 
	(Reporting on Education Survey-1 Results) o Mrs. ElizabethFlorescu & Mr. PeterYim - "Future of 
	Ontologists" (Reporting on Future RTDelphi Study-3 Results) . Please refer to details on the session 
	page at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2010_03_04#nid2A5L .    (2BV6)
	anonymous morphed into AmandaVizedom    (2BV7)
	anonymous morphed into ElizabethFlorescu    (2BV8)
	anonymous morphed into RaviSharma    (2BV9)
	anonymous morphed into ElizabethFlorescu    (2BVA)
	anonymous morphed into BruceBray    (2BVB)
	anonymous morphed into Megan Mickelson    (2BVC)
	RaviSharma: @Amamnda: Wonderful work and presentation, Analytics rich and usable by us as we move 
	forward even post Summit. Regards. Ravi    (2BVD)
	SteveRay: Interesting to note that only a quarter of respondents are from education. That's good for 
	broad coverage.    (2BVE)
	RaviSharma: @Amanda: For later response - Since I did not save my answers, can I retrieve my own 
	answers to compare where I stand in the overall responses. I do not want acesss to others surveys?    (2BVF)
	AmandaVizedom: @Ravi - I don't think that there is any way to do that.    (2BVG)
	Megan Mickelson: @Amanda: I'm sorry if you covered this, but who exactly was surveyed?    (2BVH)
	ArturoSanchez: @Megan: see - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2010_Survey    (2BVI)
	Megan Mickelson: Thank you Arturo    (2BVJ)
	ArturoSanchez: @Megan: my pleasure    (2BVK)
	AmandaVizedom: @Megan: The link Arturo provided gives intended audience. However, we didn't have an 
	obvious way to communicate the invitation and motivation to that audience. In fact, we ended up 
	stepping-out the solicitation in a somewhat ad-hoc way, starting with members of the Ontolog and 
	Ontology Summit mailing lists and requesting that members help to distribute the solicitation 
	further. We also asked participants in sessions like this one to provide further suggestions. I 
	collected those suggestions and others provided in the survey, on the mailing list, or in direct 
	communication, and sent email solicitations to those people as well. Finally, I posted the broad 
	solicitation text on the wiki (as linked on the Surveys main page) in order to have a link to post 
	in short forms such as Twitter. This I tweeted, in various forms, to hashtags: #ontology, 
	#linkeddata, #semantic, #semanticweb, #ontologysummit2010, #iswc2009, #tbc09, perhaps others. It got 
	some pickup and ReTweet action, but with more lead time I think we could expect more. I also posted 
	to the related LinkedIn groups I could find.    (2BVL)
	AmandaVizedom: @Megan - That's just the broad sweeps. I also pinged my own professional contacts; I 
	expect others did, too.    (2BVM)
	Megan Mickelson: Thank you, Amanda.    (2BVN)
	AmandaVizedom: @Megan, and all: You're welcome. Note that the survey is still open through 11 Mar - 
	I will do an update before the Symposium. Please feel free to pass along to others you think should 
	contribute!    (2BVO)
	ArturoSanchez: Yes, very good session! We should have more sessions like that!    (2BVP)
	SteveRay: @Amanda: It would be good to cross-check slide 16 results with the proposed curriculum.    (2BVQ)
	SteveRay: @Amanda: Similarly with slide 28.    (2BVR)
	SteveRay: @Peter: We need to be careful to distinguish mass understanding from mass appreciation, of 
	ontology. The RT Delphi study asked about mass understanding.    (2BVS)
	PeterYim: @Steve: fair, point well taken ... that said, I was using "appreciation" in a loose colloquial sense  
	(note: it's not on the slide (slide#13)) ... since "appreciation" for mathematics, physics or music takes on 
	rather different meanings [this clarification was added subsequently]    (2BVT)
	AmandaVizedom: Addendum to what Peter is saying: much of the European and/or Academic development is 
	not addressed to the what I perceive as the largest persistent needs. At ISWC, many of the 
	presenters agreed but had no way of getting actual industrial use cases.    (2BVU)
	RaviSharma: @Amanda: Just to record the Question slightly out of scope but related to Peter's 
	Comment, I was wondering if it is possible to filter or project likelihood of decision maker type 
	professionals / managers views in support of ontologies, may be we have to do another federal and 
	R&D manager's survey to be able to get an idea of their awareness of power of ontologies to solve 
	their problems.    (2BVV)
	AmandaVizedom: Agree with Arturo about opportunity in Health area. Want to add: Transparency and 
	Interoperability are also funded priorities in the US now. Not clear to me whether the communication 
	path between those with the need and those with the solution is any better.    (2BVW)
	Jeremy Arca: Wondering if anyone can recommend some good Ontology development courses that one can take?    (2BVX)
	MariaKeet: @amanda: on lack of industry use cases: could it be that industry does not want to shout 
	around they are using ontologies, as competitive advantage?    (2BVY)
	AmandaVizedom: @Maria: possibly, but also many orgs needing semantic solutions are gov and don't 
	have good mechanisms for doing so.    (2BVZ)
	AmandaVizedom: Recording my comment on the phone:There has been some off-line suggestion that we 
	develop mechanisms of gathering info on an ongoing basis. The idea would be to further develop these 
	snapshots and create some means of regularly updating them. For future discussion...    (2BW0)
	PeterYim: The survey results are accessible from the Survey page at: 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2010_Survey (look towards the end of each 
	section)    (2BW1)
	Jeremy Arca: There is a Semantic Web Health Care and Life Sciences (HCLS) Interest Group 
	... http://ow.ly/16EET1    (2BW2)
	ArturoSanchez: @Jeremy Arca: yes, I was aware of it ... thanks!    (2BW3)
	JoelBender: Thank you!    (2BW4)
	MariaKeet: thanks for conducting and synthesising the survey results! bye    (2BW5)
	RaviSharma: @Steve: are there requirements other than NIST ack of participation request.    (2BW6)
	RaviSharma: thanks.    (2BW7)
	PeterYim: thank you all for participation ... talk to you again next Thu 2010.03.11 at the "Sync-up" 
	virtual session, before we all head toward the Mar 15&16 Symposium    (2BW8)
	PeterYim: -- session ended 12:3 pm PST --    (2BW9)
    -- end of chat session --    (2A86)

An Open Invitation    (2A89)

If you do find this initiative interesting or useful, we cordially invite you to join us in the "Ontology Summit 2010" virtual discourse that will be taking place in the next 3 months or so, and to the face-to-face workshop that will be held on 15 & 16-March-2010 as part of the NIST Interoperability Week in Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA.    (2A8A)

Audio Recording of this Session    (2A8E)

For the record ...    (2A8M)

How To Join (while the session is in progress)    (2A8N)