OntologWiki: ConferenceCall 2006 11 30

Ontolog Technical Discussion: Ontology Application & Implementation (Take-II) - Thu 30-Nov-2006 (RH7)

Topic: "Ontology Application & Implementation (Take-II)" Panel Discussion (RH8)

Organizer / Moderator: Mr. Duane Nickull (Adobe Systems) & Mr. Kurt Conrad (Sagebrush Group) (RH9)

Panelists: (RHA)
- Mr. Peter O'Kelly (Research Director, Burton Group), (RHB)
- Mr. John McGrath (Sr. Director, Fast Search), (RHE)
- Mr. Gunar Penekis (Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Systems), and (RHD)
- Mr. Roger Sippl (Founder & Chairman, Above All Software) (RHE)

Conference Call Details (RHF)

Date: Thursday, November 30, 2006 (RHG)
Start Time: 10:30am PST / 1:30pm EST / 7:30pm CET / 18:30 GMT/UTC (RHH)
- ref: World Clock (RHI)
Expected Call Duration: 2.0 hours (RHJ)
Dial-in Number: (RHK)
- from a telephone (US): +1-712-432-4990 (Iowa, USA) (RHL)
- from a phone (Europe): 0870-119-1313 (UK) or 01805 00 7620 (Germany) (RHM)
- callers from other countries please dial into either one of the US or European numbers (RHN)
- Conference ID: "5823120#" (RHO)
- Direct call-in from Skype: +990008275823120 (RHP)

Shared-screen support (VNC session) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/ (RHQ)
- view-only password: "ontolog" (RHR)
- if you plan to be logging into this shared-screen option (which the speaker may be navigating), and you are not familiar with the process, please try to call in 5 minutes before the start of the session so that we can work out the connection logistics. Help on this will generally not be available once the presentation starts. (RHS)
- people behind corporate firewalls may have difficulty accessing this. If that is the case, please download the slides below and runing them locally. The speaker will prompt you to advance the slides during the talk. (RHT)

Please review our Virtual Session Tips and Ground Rules - see: VirtualSpeakerSessionTips (RHU)

RSVP to peter.yim@gmail.com appreciated. (RHV)

This session, like all other Ontolog events, is open to the public. Information relating to this session is shared on this wiki page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_11_30 (RHW)

Please note that this session will be recorded, and the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy. (RHX)

Attendees (RHY)

Attended: (RHZ)
- DuaneNickull (RI1)
- KurtConrad (RI2)
- PeterOKelly (RI3)
- GunarPenekis (RI5)
- RogerSippl (RI6)
- JohnMcGrath (RLH)
- PeterYim (RI7)
- Kathleen Chapman (Information Architect-Data and Information Architecture, Boeing IT) (RM5)
- SteveRay (RMF)
- IanGoldsmid (RMG)
- DougHolmes (RMK)
- LisaColvin (RML)
- NabonitaGuha (RN0)
- AtillaElci (RN1)
- PaulKoch (RN2)
- PatrickDurusau (RN3)
- PatCassidy (RN9)
- BobSmith (RN4)
- FrankMcCabe (RN5)
- BrettTrusko (RN6)
- BiswanathDutta (RN7)
- KatherineGoodier (RN8)

Expecting: (RI0)
- JimDisbrow (RLN)

(RI8)
- ...(to register for participation, please add your name here or e-mail <peter.yim@gmail.com> so that we can reserve enough resources to support the session.)... (RI9)

Regrets: (RIA)
- PeterBrown (blue-sky thinking aboard flight BA 0706 - will catch up on podcast) (RLJ)
- EdDodds (podcast) (RLM)

Background (RIB)

After a very successful first session we had last year, this is the second time we are doing a panel discussion on Ontology Applications and Implmentations. In his session, entitled "Ontology Applications & Implementations (Take-II)", we will, again, invites experts and all participants to join us in exchanging insights on implementation issues pertaining to ontologies and semantics. (RIC)

See also: the original call for panelists submissions (RID)

Agenda & Proceedings (RIH)

Abstract (by DuaneNickull) (RIE)

The session is comprised of four small presentations (10 minutes each) discussing aspects of real world implementation of Ontological and Semantic applications. Each presenter will follow their talk with a strictly limited 5 minute minor Q&A. At the end of the fourth Q&A session, a larger general Q&A will take place and evolve into a free form conversation. (RIF)

The gist is to learn what approaches are being used in the field to solve some of the ontology concerns in today's IT world. Presenters will generously share their experiences including issues they encountered and how they solved them. Talks will also be open to what might be in the future. (RIG)

Session Format: this is be a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call (RIJ)
- 1. Opening by the Moderator (5 min.) (RIK)
- 2. we'll go around with a self-introduction of participants (10~15 minutes) - we'll skip this if we have moe than 20 participants (in which case, it will be best if members try to update their namesake pages on this wiki prior to the call so that everyone can get to know who's who more easily.) (RIL)
- 3. Introduction of Panelists (Moderator) (RIM)
- 4. Briefings by each panelist (10 minute presentation, followed by a 5 minute Q&A) (RIN)
- 5. Open general discussion by all participants (30~45 minutes) (RIO)
- 6. Summary / Conclusion / Follow-up (Moderator) (RIP)

Pertinent Issues we might explore during the discussion: (RMM)

The main theme of the session is the lessons learned from implementing ontological theory or semantic capabilities. Accordingly, I would like to invite people who have a vested interested to pose questions based on the presentations. (RIQ)

The level of details should be left open as I would like to encourage business people to ask questions as well as technical people. (RIR)

(RMN)
- Technical questions: (RMO)
  - 1. What did you learn? (RMP)
  - 2. What might have been done better? (RMQ)
  - 3. What parts of current Ontology research might be going down the wrong path? (RMR)
  - 4. What is missing from current ontological research activity? (RMS)
  - 5. would you recommend anyone else trying to do what you have done? If not, why? (RMT)

(RMU)
- Business issues: (RMV)
  - 1. cost justification/metrics? (RMW)
  - 2. how did they sell the project internally? (RMX)
  - 3. ROI? (RMY)
  - 4. Lessons learned. (RMZ)

Panelists Briefings (RIS)

'''Moderator and Panelists' presentation title, abstract and prepared slides (which can be accessed by pointing your web browsers to the corresponding "slides" link below) (RIT)
- DuaneNickull / KurtConrad (Co-Moderators) (RIU)
  - Abstract: Ontology and Semantics are subjects that often get discussed in the theoretical world. Many people who read the work are left with questions such as "How can I implement this" or at least wonder what some concrete first steps might be. This session will tackle the issue of implementation by having speakers share their experiences in terms of the problems they faced and the solutions they chose to solve their ontological and semantic problems. (RLI)
- Peter O'Kelly - slides - audio playback starting at time-point 09:00 min. (RIV)
  - Title: Data Modeling is Underrated: A Bright Future Ahead in the Grand Schema (RIW)
  - Abstract: Logical data modeling is often misunderstood and underrated, in part because of limitations in related techniques and tools. This talk will briefly summarize some historical challenges, review some reasons why logical data modeling is more relevant than ever before, and project how logical data modeling and ontology-related modeling have a complementary relationship. (RIX)
- John McGrath - slides - audio playback starting at time-point 23:40 min. (RIZ)
  - Title: Taxonomy & Ontology Impact on Search Infrastructure (RJ0)
  - Abstract: Various forms of metadata are becoming an important part of search infrastructure to support feature advancement and better information access. Well review how taxonomies and ontologies are impacting the infrastructural design of information access and what trends are currently seen in the marketplace. Also, a discussion of whats likely in the near future. (RJ1)
- Gunar Penekis - slides - audio playback starting at time-point 40:46 min. (RJ3)
  - Title: The XML Metadata Platform (XMP) (RJ4)
  - Abstract: Gunar's talk will be on XMP as a metadata serialization format based on RDF and XML. Gunar will explore what XMP is, it's relationship to RDF (look at code), and schema support, partners, SDK 4.0. The XML Metadata Platform was designed to aide with Ontological and semantic implementations in mind and strives to be standards compliant. People looking at implementing some form of semantic or ontological declarations might wish to review the open source software development kit. (RJ5)
- Roger Sippl - slides - audio playback starting at time-point 56:36 min. (RJ7)
  - Title: Composite Applications Built from Real World Enterprise Ontologies in SOA Environments (RJ8)
  - Abstract: The advent of SOA and composite applications has resulted in a new requirement for ontology and semantic implementation to help understand resources. Ontology's have proven imperative to sharing information across multiple taxonomies. Above All software CEO Roger Sippl will share his company's experience in sorting out a methodology to meet these requirements. (RJ9)

Questions, Answers & Discourse: (RJB)

If you want to speak or have questions for the panel, we appreciate your posting them as instructed below: (please identify yourself) (RJC)
- experimental: try using the queue management chat tool (RJD)
- point a separate browser window (or tab) to http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room and enter: Room: "ontolog_20061130" & My Name: e.g. "JaneDoe" (RJE)
- or point your browser to: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontolog_20061130 (RJF)
  - instructions: once you got access to the page, click on the "settings" button, and identify yourself (by modifying the Name field). You can indicate that you want to ask a question verbally by clicking on the "hand" button, and wait for the moderator to call on you; or, type and send your question into the chat window at the bottom of the screen. (RJG)
    - alternatively you can press "11" on your phone keypad to signal your "raised hand" and await the moderator to give you the "floor" (RJH)
- For those who have further questions or remarks on the topic, please post them to the [ontolog-forum] so that everyone in the community can benefit from the discourse. (RJI)

... More Questions (RJJ)

Session ended 2006.11.30 12:30 pm PDT (RJM)

Audio Recording of this Panel Session (RJN)

To download the audio recording of the presentation, click here (RJP)
- the playback of the audio files require the proper setup, and an MP3 compatible player on your computer. (RJQ)
Conference Date and Time: Nov. 30, 2006 10:38am~12:30pm Pacific Standard Time (RJR)
Duration of Recording: 1 Hour 38 Minutes (RJS)
Recording File Size: 11.5 MB (in mp3 format) (RJT)
Telephone Playback Expiration Date: Dec. 30, 2006 0:00 AM Pacific Standard Time (RJU)
- Prior to the above Expiration Date, one can call-in and hear the telephone playback of the session. (RJV)
- Playback Dial-in Number: (RJW)
  - US: 1-712-432-4999 (long distance costs apply) (RJX)
  - UK: 0870 119 2349 (long distance costs apply) (RJY)
  - Skype: +990008271111 (RJZ)
  - non-Skype callers from other countries can dial into either the US or UK number for the playback (long distance costs apply) (RK0)
  - Conference ID: 5823120# (RK1)
  - Recording Reference Number: 53669# (RK2)
- suggestions: (RK3)
  - its best that you listen to the session while having the presenters' slides, ref. above, opened in front of you. You'll be prompted to advance the slides by the speaker. (RK4)
  - if you want to skip the opening introductions, and jump straight to the body of the presentations, please start your playback at the following time points: (RK5)
    - PeterOKelly - Data Modeling is Underrated - 09:00 min. (RNB)
    - JohnMcGrath - Taxonomy & Ontology Impact on Search Infrastructure - 23:40 min. (RNC)
    - GunarPenekis - The XML Metadata Platform (XMP) - 40:46 min. (RND)
    - RogerSippl - Composite Applications Built from Real World Enterprise Ontologies in SOA Environments - 56:36 min. (RNE)

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