[ontolog] Scheduled Discussion session - October 20, 2005 (FP6)
- Topic: "Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard" (FP7)
- Moderator: NicolasRouquette (FP8)
- Organizing Team: NicolasRouquette, JohnDomingue, EMichaelMaximilien (GUB)
- Panelists: JohnDomingue (WSMO), MichaelGruninger (SWSF / FLOWS), AmitSheth (WSDL-S), and DavidMartin (OWL-S) (GUD)
- Ideas and preparation: see - /Prep (FPB)
- topic first proposed by DuaneNickull, NicolasRouquette & PeterBrown (FPC)
Conference Call Details (FPD)
- Date: Thursday, October 20, 2005 (FPE)
- Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Standard Time / 1:30 PM Eastern Standard Time / 17:30 UTC (see world clock for other time zones) (FPF)
- Duration: 2.0 hours (FPG)
- Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada) (FPH)
- Participant Access Code: "686564#" (FPI)
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- Please note that this session will be recorded, and the audio archive is expected to be made available as open content to our community membership and the public at-large under our prevailing open IPR policy. (FPQ)
Attendees (FPR)
- Attended: (FPS)
- NicolasRouquette (FPU)
- JohnDomingue (KMi) (FPV)
- DavidMartin (GXJ)
- BobSmith (GWE)
- MichaelGruninger (FPW)
- EMichaelMaximilien (FR3)
- PeterYim (FPX)
- RoyRoebuck (GXE)
- MarkGreaves (GXF)
- DougEngelbart (GX7)
- JamesDouma (GX5)
- Sheila McIlraith (University of Toronto) (GV5)
- KurtConrad (GXH)
- MichaelUschold (GXI)
- AmitSheth (GFX)
- Kunal Verma (University of Georgia) (GVB)
- David Martin (IBM, Almaden) (GXK)
- Sachin K. Singhal (Northrop Grumman, Electronic Systems) (GWT)
- MonicaMartin (GWH)
- Giuseppe (Peppo) Valetto (IBM Research, Hawthorne, NY) (GX0)
- Barry Norton (KMi) (GXU)
- Stefania Galizia (KMi) (GXV)
- Liliana Cabral (KMi) (GXW)
- Alessio Gugliotta (KMi) (GXX)
- PatCassidy (GXL)
- Leticia Gutiérrez (GXM)
- Also Expected (and who might have joined us after we finished with the roll call): (FPT)
- CarlReed (FPY)
- BoNewman (FSJ)
- ElisaKendall (GCP)
- RexBrooks (GWF)
- AndreCharland (GWG)
- DeniseBedford (GWJ)
- ...(to register for participation, please add your name here or e-mail <peter.yim@cim3.com> so that we can reserve enough resources to support the session.)... (FPZ)
- Regrets: (FQ0)
- RamaAkkiraju (GFW)
- BarrySmith (GWI)
- BrandNiemann (meeting conflict) (GWK)
- DuaneNickull (will be in air) (GWL)
- JonathanCheyer (GWM)
- Ann Wrightson (CSW, UK; travelling) (GWU)
- AdamCheyer (GWS)
- PeterBrown (GX4)
- BillMcCarthy (GX6)
Agenda & Proceedings (FQ1)
- Dr. Nicolas Rouquette from NASA/Jet Propulsion Lab will be moderating this discussion session (FQ2)
Topic: Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard (FQ4)
- Abstract: (FQ3)
We intend to bring together a good cross-section of top researchers and practitioners in the Semantic Web Service Ontology space, both in the panel and among the participants for this session. We will invite our panelists to open the discussion by familiarizing everyone with the different (and possibly still divergent) perspectives and approaches being taken on the subject matter -- OWL-S, WSMO, WSDL-S and SWSF/FLOWS ... etc., and then make a collective attempt to make some sense of the current state of affairs, and possibly suggest where things should be heading. (FQ5)
The key initiatives that we will be talking about, will include (as mentioned above, but not limited to): (GWN)
- Pertinent Issues we might explore during this session: (FQ6)
- ... (Nicolas will summarize here) ... (FQ7)
- ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_10_20/Prep#nidGCV (GV7)
- Session Format: this is be a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call (FQ8)
- 1. we'll go around with a self-introduction of participants (10~15 minutes) (FQ9)
- 2. Introduction of Moderator and Panelists (FQA)
- 3. Opening by Moderator (FQB)
- 4. 10-minute summary presentation by each panelist on their perspective (FQC)
- 5. follow each panelist's presentation with a 10 minute Q&A and discussion on that particular perspective (GV8)
- 6. open general discussion by all participants (FQD)
- 7. Summary / Conclusion / Follow-up (Moderator) (FQE)
- Moderator and Panelists' prepared slides or material (if there is any) can be accessed by pointing your web browsers to: (FQF)
- Slides to be presented during this session: (FQG)
- links to additional relevant resources: (FQH)
- OWL-S and related work references: (GVC)
- from DavidMartin - slides from the SWANS conference (April 2005) - http://www.daml.org/meetings/2005/04/pi/SWS.pdf (GVE)
- DavidMArtin also suggested a wealth of material from the W3C Semantic Web Services Workshop, June 2005: (GXN)
- URL to that W3C workshop: http://www.w3.org/2005/04/FSWS/minutes/ (GXO)
- Link to that workshop report: http://www.w3.org/2005/04/FSWS/workshop-report.html (GXP)
- WSMO references: (GVY)
- from JohnDomingue - slides from the W3C workshop on frameworks (June 2005) - http://www.w3.org/2005/04/FSWS/Submissions/1/wsmo_v10.pdf (GVZ)
- WSMO and related work website http://www.wsmo.org/ (GW0)
- DIP project website (DIP is a large EU project on SWS where a lot of the WSMO work goes on) http://dip.semanticweb.org/ (GW1)
- IRS website - IRS is a platform for creating SWS based applications which uses WSMO http://kmi.open.ac.uk/projects/irs/ (GW2)
- Website of webcasts on WSMO and SWS (this uses KMi technology) http://stadium.open.ac.uk/dip/ (GW3)
- WSDL-S and related work references: (GVF)
- from AmitSheth - U of Georgia, LSDIS, WSDL-S Technical Note - http://lsdis.cs.uga.edu/projects/meteor-s/wsdl-s/ (GVG)
- slides from the W3C Framework workshop (April 2005) - http://lsdis.cs.uga.edu/projects/meteor-s/wsdl-s/WSDL-S.pdf (GVH)
- SWSF / FLOWS and related work references: (GWD)
- (please post any additional resources here) (FQI)
- OWL-S and related work references: (GVC)
- Any material outside of the prepared presentation, if they are called up during the session, may be shared under the VNC session detailed above (FQJ)
Questions, Answers & Discourse: (GUH)
- If you have questions for the panel, we appreciate your posting them as instructed below: (please identify yourself) (GUL)
- experimental: try using the queue management chat tool at: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontolog_20051020 (GUI)
- instructions: once you got access to the page, click on the "settings" button, and identify yourself (by modifying the Name field). You can indicate that you want to ask a question verbally by clicking on the "hand" button, and wait for the moderator to call on you; or, type and send your question into the chat window at the bottom of the screen. (GUJ)
- ... (you may also post you questions below, the moderator & panel will be fielding them during the open discussion) ... (GUK)
- For those who have further questions or remarks on the topic, please post them to the [ontolog-forum] so that everyone in the community can benefit from the discourse. (GUM)
- experimental: try using the queue management chat tool at: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/ontolog_20051020 (GUI)
- new Questions (this session) (GUN)
- Question from NicolasRouquette: Service descriptions allow specifying preconditions & postconditions (eg OWL-Sprocess model, WSMO's capability description). How can we specify "safety" and "liveliness" properties typically found in the context of model checking ? (GXS)
- ...(insert your question here) ... (GUQ)
- For those who have further questions and discussion on this topic, please post them to the ontolog forum so that we can all benefit from the discourse. (FQO)
- Session ended 2005.10.20 13:06pm PDT (FQP)
Session Recording of this Panel Discussion (FQQ)
(Thanks to KurtConrad and PeterYim for their help with getting the session recorded. =ppy) (FQR)
- To download the audio recording of the presentation, click here (FQT)
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- Conference Date and Time: Oct. 20, 2005 10:42am~1:05pm Pacific Daylight Time (FQV)
- Duration of Recording: 2 Hour 17 Minutes (after editing) (FQW)
- Recording File Size: 31 MB (in mp3 format) (FQX)
- Telephone Playback Expiration Date: Oct. 30, 2005 12:56 AM Pacific Std Time (FQY)
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