ConferenceCall 2005 07 07

[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-07-07    (DPQ)

Conference Call Details    (DPR)

• Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-07-07    (DPS)

• Agenda Comments:    (DPT)
  • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (DPW)
  • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting    (DPX)
  • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (DPY)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (DPZ)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed    (DQ0)
  • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_07_07    (DQ1)
• Date: Thursday, Jul. 07, 2005    (DQ2)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT World Clock    (DQ3)
• Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour    (DQ4)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (DQ5)
• Participant Access Code: "686564#"    (DQ6)

Attendees    (DQ7)

• Attended:    (DQ8)
  • RexBrooks    (DSS)
  • BobSmith    (DSW)
  • PeterYim    (DSR)
  • BillMcCarthy    (DSV)
  • AndersTell    (DT8)

• Expecting:    (DQ9)

• Regrets:    (DQA)
  • KurtConrad (on vacation)    (DST)
  • LisaSeaburg    (DSU)
  • SteveRay    (DSX)
  • JamesDouma (meeting conflict)    (DX9)
  • DuaneNickull    (DT7)

Agenda Ideas    (DQB)

Agenda & Proceedings    (DQC)

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda    (DQD)

• RexBrooks took the chair and welcomed everyone.    (DQE)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (DQF)

• PeterYim volunteered    (DQG)

3) Roll-call of participants    (DQH)

• see above    (DQI)

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)    (DQJ)

• Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):    (DQK)
  • member regular meeting    (DQL)
  • invited speaker session    (DQM)
  • scheduled discussion    (DQN)
  • project review    (DQO)
  • workshop / work session    (DQP)
  • planning    (DQQ)

• Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months    (DQR)
  • July 14, 2005 - AndersTell from Business Collaboration Toolsmiths AB (Sweden) on Business Ontologies - (proposed: DuaneNickull) - see: ConferenceCall_2005_07_14    (DQS)
  • August 11, 2005 - JimHendler from the University of Maryland will be doing a "Semantic Web Q & A" with the Ontolog community - see: ConferenceCall_2005_08_11    (DQT)
  • Candidate Sep. 2005 session(s) - we could probably do either one or both:    (DXY)
    • JonBosak of Sun on OASIS Process - suggested (KurtConrad / SusanTurnbull) at our 2005.03.03 Planning Session - Susan: the 2005.09.23 CEW on implication on governance ... would be ideal. [Kurt will follow up with Jon and Susan]    (DR3)
      • possibility of this rolling into a joint SICoP or CEW-multiple CoP Best Practice event (suggested: SusanTurnbull / 2005.03.03)    (DR4)
    • BillMcCarthy suggested John Sowa (try, either Sep. 1 or 6, 2005) - Bill will write John about this    (DXH)
  • future candidates speakers:    (DQU)
    • DougLenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)    (DQV)
    • NicolaGuarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAnderson or ChrisWelty (suggested by PeterYim & PatCassidy)    (DQW)
    • LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)    (DQX)
    • SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse)    (DQY)
  • other suggestions:    (DQZ)
    • a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)    (DR0)
      • possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE    (DR1)
    • Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group    (DR2)
      • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel    (DXA)
    • JimSpohrer from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion)    (DT6)
    • Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project    (DXB)
      • Professor Dogac's work has also been previous recommended by BrandNiemann - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ    (DXZ)
    • Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time    (DXD)

• Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months    (DR5)
  • DavidWhitten: maybe we should designate a moderator, and then coordinate the event from there, in a fashion similar to speaker events.    (DRA)
  • more work/discussion on OWL    (DRB)
    • Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful    (DRC)
  • NicolasRouquette -- topics lined up?    (DRD)
  • Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up    (DRE)
  • WSMO (Web Service Modeling Ontology), and possibly also, SWSF (Semantic Web Services Framework) - as proposed by DuaneNickull / NicolasRouquette / PeterBrown - ref. thread that started with http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-06/msg00017.html    (DRF)
    • candidate panelists:    (DRG)
      • John Domingue of the Knowledge Media Institute at the Open University in the UK, who presented in Innsbruck - suggested by PeterBrown - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-06/msg00039.html    (DRH)
      • reference: John Domingue's slides from the presentation at the recent W3C workshop on frameworks for semantics in web services, available at: http://www.w3.org/2005/04/FSWS/Submissions/1/wsmo_v10.pdf    (DRI)
      • WSMO WG website - http://www.wsmo.org    (DRJ)
      • SDK cluster - 3 fairly large EU-based project    (DRK)
        • currently lots of funding in Europe for semantic web work (and funding in US has just ended), therefore expecting new work to come from Europe    (DRL)
      • three different viewpoints now - OWL/S, SWSI - FLOWS, and WSMO viewpoints - probably a bit early to talk about standardization    (DRM)
    • let's work with John Domingue toward a Oct 2005 panel discussion, with the 3 above viewpoints represented    (DRN)
      • John: will do ... but don't expect consensus at the end of the session ... (we understand)    (DRO)
    • ref. our 2005.06.30 discussion session, MichaelGruninger (who has been working on FLOWS and SWSF) indicated that this will be a session he will like to participate in too.    (DRP)
  • no discussion session for July 2005    (DXE)
  • August 25, 2005 discussion session - moderator: RexBrooks - subject: Healthcare Informatics    (DXF)
    • candidate panelists: BobSmith, MarkMusen, ... people from within and without the community    (DXG)

• Upcoming Events of interest    (DRQ)
  • Sep. 14, 2005 - 2nd DRM Public Forum (Washington DC) (Rex, Peter)    (DXJ)
  • Sep. 12~16, 2005 - UN/CEFACT Forum - (Lyon, France) (Anders, Bill)    (DXK)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues    (DRR)

• Regular call time revisited: - will discuss in the next planning session    (DRS)
  • open discussion in progress (comments invited); will deliberate after end June 2005 (allowing W3C SWBPD to decide on their regular call time first.    (DRT)
  • MichaelGruninger also indicated last week (during the 2005.06.30 session) that our Thurday call time conflicts with that of the SWSF WG call schedule too.    (DRU)

6) Follow-ups from previous calls    (DRV)

• Note of thanks to a great session last week -- it's another ground-breaking event for Ontolog    (DSY)
  • What worked well?    (DSZ)
    • we picked a right topic    (DXO)
      • current, timeliness    (DXP)
      • hot, relevant    (DXT)
      • appropriate for discussion, significantly immature    (DXU)
    • prospect of competing expert viewpoint    (DXQ)
    • we were able to put this together quickly    (DXR)
    • stakeholders find value in an inexpensive CoP setting (compared to peer-reviewed publication and conference)    (DXS)
  • What can be improved?    (DT0)
    • Bill: would be nice if we have some visibility on who wanted to speak, queue up questions, etc.    (DXV)
      • Peter: we have a space on the wiki for it ... but it's more the culture than the tool    (DXW)
  • follow-ups with the POSE / IMS people?    (DT4)
    • consensus that we stay put, but will generally be receptive to collaborate, either individually or collectively    (DXX)

• call/meeting to be scheduled with UN/CEFACT-CCTS WG to review Ontolog's comments [attn: DuaneNickull - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_03_10#nid5JB]    (DRW)

• possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull]    (DRX)

7) Current Project Status Report    (DRY)

• Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work - item skipped    (DRZ)
  • Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)    (DS0)
  • Formalization issues    (DS1)
  • UBL Liaison update    (DS2)
  • [CCT-Rep] status report    (DS3)

• Status of Protege-KIF project work - item skipped    (DS4)

• status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work    (DS5)
  • AHIC Nomination    (DS6)
    • the Ontolog community is nominating Dr. Mark Musen to the AHIC commission    (DXL)
    • Bob: still awaiting to hear from ONCHIT details on the nomination process    (DXM)
    • the consensus of the meeting is that we will keep the letter simple    (DXN)

• UBL liaison report - item skipped    (DS7)

• SICoP liaison report - item skipped    (DS8)
  • report from the Ontolog-XMDR 2005.06.23 pm meeting (Peter / Kurt / Rex)    (DS9)

• status report from Planning team - item skipped    (DSA)
  • note: planning session (originally scheduled after this call) is now postponed to ______    (DSB)

8) project work session / discussion - item skipped    (DSC)

• VistA-Ontolog collaboration potential:    (DT5)
  • Open Source set-aside contract (1 of 6) - ref RexBrook's post: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2005-07/msg00006.html    (DT3)

9) New project proposals - item skipped    (DSD)

• Brand suggests we work with Rex Brooks to review the Broadstrokes group pilot, from an ontologists perspective    (DSE)

• topic map of interest; scheduling conflicts; ... etc.    (DSF)
  • Nicolas: complementary activities between Ontolog and SICoP    (DSG)
    • Bob: we could bring this up at our planning session    (DSH)
  • potential new project with Nicolas, Bob and Kurt leading    (DSI)
  • See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologDiscussion/TaggingForumForMatchingInterestsWithinCompatibleSchedule    (DSJ)

10) Sponsorship and funding - item skipped    (DSK)

11) Other business - item skipped    (DSL)

12) Next meeting date and adjourn    (DSN)

• call adjourned 11:58 am PDT    (DSO)
• next call will be on Thu 2005.07.14 starting at 10:30 am PDT - Invited Speaker Session featuring AndersTell from Business Collaboration Toolsmiths AB (Sweden) on "Business Ontologies" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_07_14    (DSP)

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