ConferenceCall 2005 06 23

[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-06-23    (DBA)

Conference Call Details    (DBB)

• Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-06-23    (DBC)

• Agenda Comments:    (DBD)
  • Besides being a regular weekly call, this session will focus on the follow-up from earlier NHIN-RFI and HEALTH-ONT pilot/presentation efforts. Team members from those efforts are especially encouraged to join us.    (DBE)
  • BobSmith - Co-convener and Project Manager of the NHIN-RFI Response team will be chairing the session.    (DBF)
  • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (DBG)
  • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting    (DBH)
  • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (DBI)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (DBJ)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed    (DBK)
  • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_06_23    (DBL)
• Date: Thursday, Jun. 23, 2005    (DBM)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT World Clock    (DBN)
• Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour    (DBO)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (DBP)
• Participant Access Code: "686564#"    (DBQ)

Attendees    (DBR)

• Attended:    (DBS)
  • BillMcCarthy    (DHG)
  • BobSmith    (DHH)
  • JamesDouma    (DGZ)
  • PeterYim    (DEF)
  • BrandNiemann    (DHF)
  • John Domingue (KMI, UK)    (DEG)
  • MonicaMartin    (DGY)
  • NicolasRouquette    (DHS)

• Expecting:    (DBT)
  • MarcWine    (DEH)
  • RexBrooks    (DEK)

• Regrets:    (DBU)
  • AdamPease (traveling)    (DEI)
  • DuaneNickull    (DEJ)
  • SteveRay    (DEM)
  • KurtConrad    (DH3)

Agenda Ideas    (DBV)

Agenda & Proceedings    (DBW)

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda    (DBX)

• BobSmith took the chair and welcomed everyone.    (DBY)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (DBZ)

• PeterYim volunteered    (DC0)

3) Roll-call of participants    (DC1)

• see above    (DC2)

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)    (DC3)

• Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):    (DC4)
  • member regular meeting    (DC5)
  • invited speaker session    (DC6)
  • scheduled discussion    (DC7)
  • project review    (DC8)
  • workshop / work session    (DC9)
  • planning    (DCA)

• Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months    (DCB)
  • for July 2005 - AndersTell from Business Collaboration Toolsmiths AB - Thu 2005-07-14 - confirmed (proposed: DuaneNickull)    (DCC)
  • for August 2005 - JimHendler - "Semantic Web Q&A" - Aug. 11, 2005 (thanks to MarkMusen for confirming this with JimHendler) - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_08_11    (DCD)
  • future candidates speakers:    (DCE)
    • DougLenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)    (DCF)
    • NicolaGuarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAnderson or ChrisWelty (suggested by PeterYim & PatCassidy)    (DCG)
    • LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)    (DCH)
    • SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse)    (DCI)
  • other suggestions:    (DCJ)
    • a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)    (DCK)
      • possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE    (DCL)
    • Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group    (DCM)
    • JonBosak of Sun on OASIS Process - suggested (KurtConrad / SusanTurnbull) at our 2005.03.03 Planning Session - Susan: the 2005.09.23 CEW on implication on governance ... would be ideal. [Kurt will follow up with Jon and Susan]    (DCN)
      • possibility of this rolling into a joint SICoP or CEW-multiple CoP Best Practice event (suggested: SusanTurnbull / 2005.03.03)    (DCO)

• Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months    (DCR)
  • June 2005 - "Interoperability Concerns in the Growth of Service Sciences -- Ontological Implications of Service Oriented Architecture" - Moderator: BillMcCarthy - Thursday ConferenceCall_2005_06_30    (DCS)
    • potenial to setup a panel - George Brown (IMS / POSE - Intel / ASU); DuaneNickull (SOA); MichaelGruninger (NIST / Formal Ontologies / PSL); someone from the new UC Berkeley-based Center for Service Enterprise    (DCT)
      • this is suggested by BillMcCarthy & SteveRay as something to explore    (DCU)
  • see: OntologDiscussion    (DCV)
  • David: maybe we should designate a moderator, and then coordinate the event from there, in a fashion similar to speaker events.    (DCW)
  • more work/discussion on OWL    (DCX)
    • Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful    (DCY)
  • NicolasRouquette has a couple of topics lined up too ... we'll talk about those when he is at the call.    (DCZ)
  • Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up    (DD0)
  • WSMO (Web Service Modeling Ontology), and possibly also, SWSF (Semantic Web Services Framework) - as proposed by DuaneNickull / NicolasRouquette / PeterBrown - ref. thread that started with http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-06/msg00017.html    (DCP)
    • candidate speaker: John Domingue of the Knowledge Media Institute at the Open University in the UK, who presented in Innsbruck - suggested by PeterBrown - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-06/msg00039.html    (DCQ)
      • reference: John Domingue's slides from the presentation at the recent W3C workshop on frameworks for semantics in web services, available at: http://www.w3.org/2005/04/FSWS/Submissions/1/wsmo_v10.pdf    (DGE)
      • WSMO WG website - http://www.wsmo.org    (DHI)
      • SDK cluster - 3 fairly large EU-based project    (DHL)
        • currently lots of funding in Europe for semantic web work (and funding in US has just ended), therefore expecting new work to come from Europe    (DHJ)
      • three different viewpoints now - OWL/S, SWSI - FLOWS, and WSMO viewpoints - probably a bit early to talk about standardization    (DHK)
    • let's work with John Domingue toward a Oct 2005 panel discussion, with the 3 above viewpoints represented    (DHM)
      • John: will do ... but don't expect consensus at the end of the session ... (we understand)    (DHN)

• Upcoming Events of interest    (DD1)
  • SusanTurnbull's Collaborative Expedition Workshop #41, Tuesday, June 28, 2005 at NSF    (DD2)
    • see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/OpenStandardsForGovernmentInformationSharing_DRM_TimingTheTransformation_2005_06_28    (DD3)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues    (DD4)

• Regular call time revisited:    (DD5)
  • open discussion in progress (comments invited); will deliberate after end June 2005 (allowing W3C SWBPD to decide on their regular call time first.    (DD6)

6) Follow-ups from previous calls    (DD7)

• call/meeting to be scheduled with UN/CEFACT-CCTS WG to review Ontolog's comments [attn: DuaneNickull - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_03_10#nid5JB]    (DE5)

• possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull]    (DE6)

7) Current Project Status Report    (DD8)

• Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work    (DD9)
  • Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)    (DDA)
  • Formalization issues    (DDB)
  • UBL Liaison update    (DDC)
  • [CCT-Rep] status report    (DDD)
    • work was reported at the 6/13/05 FEA-DRM Public Forum by Peter    (DHQ)

• Status of Protege-KIF project work    (DDE)
  • seems like Pat has migrated his Protege-SKIF plugin from Protege 2000 to Protege 3.1 beta.    (DHR)

• status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work    (DDF)
  • AHIC Nomination - ref. thread starting http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-06/msg00024.html    (DDG)
    • What is AHIC and why might Ontolog be concerned?    (DH4)
      • American Health Information Community of 17 Commissioners appointed by HHS Sec. Leavitt    (DH5)
      • Provides input and recommendations to HHS on digital, secure and interoperable health records    (DH6)
      • More details at http://www.hhs.gov/healthit/qa.html    (DH7)
    • How does the NHIN-RFI relate to AHIC and the 4 ONCHIT Request for Proposals?    (DH8)
      • Intent of the RFPs to design, prototype demonstrations, and evaluate ( over the next 500 days; See http://www.hhs.gov/healthit/contracts.html )    (DH9)
        • process to unify and harmonize IT standards development over time    (DHA)
        • process for conformance certification of HIT network components    (DHB)
        • address variations and misalignments within and between business policies and state laws re: privacy, security, interoperability, etc.    (DHC)
        • nationwide HIT architecture functions and demo feasible scalable models    (DHD)
    • A "nexus" or significant domain links between SICoP Pilots, VistA efforts, and ONCHIT / Dr. Brailer's Funded RFP Initiatives suggests a well developed Nomination Letter could identify contributions of Protege and Ontology methods and concepts effectively. Perhaps VistA reviewed http://www.hhs.gov/healthit/VAvista.html    (DHE)
  • July 18 at ONCHIT - Brand, Marc Wine and Dr. Fitzmaurice will be meeting    (DHU)
    • Brand will be handing off the pilot to Marc and others    (DHV)

• UBL liaison report    (DDH)

• SICoP liaison report    (DDI)
  • starting to plan the 3rd Semantic Technology Conference for eGov (Oct. 2005)    (DHO)
  • July 19, Paul Koch from Kevric will be presenting their ontology work sponsored by NCI (National Cancer Institute)    (DHW)
  • Metallec - tool to mine documents to produce an OWL ontology    (DHX)
  • Michel Biezunski will be showing how to get a topic map out of an OWL ontology    (DHY)
    • see: http://www.extrememarkup.com    (DHZ)
  • Brand - ref: Thomas Passin's book on "Explorer's Guide to Semantic Web"    (DI0)

• Peter / Kurt / Rex meeting with XMDR people this afternoon    (DI4)
  • Brand: they are getting EPA and other government funding for the XMDR work    (DI5)

• status report from Planning team    (DDJ)
  • note: planning session (originally scheduled after this call) is now postponed to ______    (DE0)

8) project work session / discussion    (DDK)

9) New project proposals    (DDX)

• Brand suggests we work with Rex Brooks to review the Broadstrokes group pilot, from an ontologists perspective    (DHP)

• topic map of interest; scheduling conflicts; ... etc.    (DI6)
  • Nicolas: complementary activities between Ontolog and SICoP    (DI2)
    • Bob: we could bring this up at our planning session    (DI3)
  • potential new project with Nicolas, Bob and Kurt leading    (DI7)
  • See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologDiscussion/TaggingForumForMatchingInterestsWithinCompatibleSchedule    (DJB)

10) Sponsorship and funding    (DDY)

11) Other business    (DDZ)

12) Next meeting date and adjourn    (DE1)

• call adjourned 11:43 am PDT    (DE2)
• next call will be on Thu 2005.06.30 starting at 10:30 am PDT - (Technical) Panel Discussion: "Interoperability Concerns in the Growth of Service Sciences -- Ontological Implications of Service Oriented Architecture" - Moderator: BillMcCarthy - see: ConferenceCall_2005_06_30    (DE3)

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