ConferenceCall 2004 09 30

[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2004-09-30    (3B1)

Conference Call Details    (3B2)

• Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2004-09-30    (3B3)

• Agenda Comments:    (3B4)
  • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (3B5)
  • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting    (3B6)
  • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (3B7)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (3B8)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed    (3B9)
  • Wiki page for this call is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2004_09_30    (3BA)
• Date: Thursday, Sep. 30, 2004    (3BB)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM Pacific Standard Time    (3BC)
• End Time: 11:55 AM Pacific Standard Time    (3BD)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (3BE)
• Participant Access Code: "0686564#"    (3BF)

Attendees    (3BG)

• Attended:    (3BH)
  • KurtConrad    (3BI)
  • AdamPease    (3BJ)
  • PeterYim    (3BK)
  • PatCassidy    (3BL)
  • BillMcCarthy    (3BM)
  • EvanWallace    (3BN)
  • SermKulvatunyou    (3BO)
  • GarretMinakawa    (3BP)

• Expecting:    (3BQ)
  • AlanStitzer    (3BR)
  • BobSmith (expected to be on the road during the time; will call from cell phone)    (3BS)

• Regrets:    (3BT)
  • SteveRay    (3BU)

Agenda Ideas    (3BV)

• from ConferenceCall_2004_09_23: we will devote a good part of our weekly Thursday calls to actual [CCT-Rep] work. Peter will draft a weekly work schedule leading to the Dec. 1 2004 EIDX Panel presentation. ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2004_09_23#nid037)    (3BW)

• introducing SKYPE <http://www.skype.com> VoIP / IM service - possibility of using it for our conference calls and project work. (I learned this from ShinyaYamada. --ppy/2004.09.30)    (3BX)

Agenda & Proceedings    (3BY)

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda    (3BZ)

• KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone.    (3C0)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (3C1)

• PeterYim volunteered    (3C2)

3) Roll-call of participants    (3C3)

• see above    (3C4)

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)    (3C5)

• suggested standing schedule (on a monthly basis):    (3C6)
  • Week 1: Continue planning work    (3C7)
  • Week 2: Guest speaker    (3C8)
    • ChrisMenzel - October 2004, date? (AdamPease)    (3C9)
    • ChrisWelty - status? - possibility of shifting Chris to Jan. 2005? (BillMcCarthy)    (3CA)
      • other candidates - MichaelUschold (EvanWallace will help check the possibilities with Mike)    (3CB)
    • MarkMusen - December 9, 2004 - confirmed (PeterYim)    (3CC)
  • Week 3: Project review    (3CD)
  • Week 4: Workshop    (3CE)
    • for the near term, see [below http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2004_09_30#nid063]    (3CF)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues    (3CG)

• introducing SKYPE <http://www.skype.com> VoIP / IM service - possibility of using it for our conference calls and project work. (--PeterYim)    (3CH)

6) Follow-ups from previous calls    (3CI)

• Collaboration Expedition Workshop / XML.gov joint meeting Tue 2004.10.19 at NSF (Ballston, VA) (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2004_09_23#nid052)    (3CJ)
  • the Ontolog / Protege hands-on demo slot will be presented by HolgerKnublauch on site (at NSF), with PeterYim and MarkMusen doing a small opening remotely before that.    (3CK)
    • for those who may not realize it, MarkMusen is now a member of the Ontolog-Forum. Welcome, Mark! --ppy    (3CL)
  • MikeDaconta is working on coming up with a use case that all three parties can use (UMD-Ontolink, Ontolog-Protege & TopQuadrant-TopBRAID) in their demo.    (3CM)

7) Status of Protege-KIF project work    (3CN)

• nothing new to report    (3CO)
  • possibly meeting up with Holger and Evan during the 2004.10.19 workshop at NSF    (3CP)

8) Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work    (3CQ)

• [CCT-Rep] status report    (3CR)
• Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)    (3CS)
• Formalization issues    (3CT)
• UBL Liaison update    (3CU)
  • AlanStitzer, TimMcGrath & PeterYim joined MarionRoyal at the first TBG17-UBL Liaison Team conference call on Tue 2004.09.21. SueProbert also contributed, and is expected to be on the team too. Regular calls for this team will continue to be convened by Marion on Tuesdays (unless otherwise ntoified) at 8:00am US Eastern Time. CctRepresentation & UblOntology project team members particularly, who are also TBG-17 or UBL members, are encouraged to participate.    (3CV)

9) CctRepresentation project work session    (3CW)

• from ConferenceCall_2004_09_23: we will devote a good part of our weekly Thursday calls to actual [CCT-Rep] work. Peter will draft a weekly work schedule leading to the Dec. 1 2004 EIDX Panel presentation. ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2004_09_23#nid037)    (3CX)

•    (3CY)
  • [CCT-Rep] draft near-term work plan: (--proposed by: PeterYim / 2004.09.30)    (3CZ)
    • (dates indicated represent our weekly call date; task description(s) covers work expected to be started/done during a specific call, and completed/reviewed during the immediate following week, prior to the next call.)    (3D0)
    • Thu 2004.09.30 - (i) closure of [cctont] draft, and its release for comments; (ii) initiate collection of input for "lessons learned" and appropriate feedback that we could provide to the standards development colleagues. (see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CctRepresentation#nid0134)    (3D1)
    • Thu 2004.10.07 - (i) review comments and fine tune [cctont]; (ii) import [cctont] with ProtegeKIF tool; (iii) discuss and initiate mapping/translation tasks (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CctRepresentation#nid0136)    (3D2)
    • Thu 2004.10.14 - (Ontolog invited speaker session)    (3D3)
    • Thu 2004.10.21 - (i) review first set of mapping results; (ii) start drafting the "Paper(s)"    (3D4)
    • Thu 2004.10.28 - (i) 2nd review of mapping results; (ii) review draft "Paper(s)"    (3D5)
    • Thu 2004.11.04 - (i) final review of mapping results; (ii) finalize "Paper(s)"; (iii) identify the presenter(s) for the EIDX panel; (iv) start drafting the "Semantic Harmonisation" presentation.    (3D6)
    • Thu 2004.11.11 - (Ontolog invited speaker session)    (3D7)
    • Thu 2004.11.18 - review of draft "Semantic Harmonisation" presentation    (3D8)
    • Thu 2004.11.25 - finalize "Semantic Harmonisation" presentation    (3D9)
    • Thu 2004.11.04 - TBA    (3DA)
    • Wed 2004.12.01 - EIDX "Semantic Harmonisation" Panel Presentation - (2~5pm, Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, CA)    (3DB)

•    (3DC)
  • The "Input" pages - for helping us put together our collective insight and recommendations: (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CctRepresentation#nid040)    (3DD)
    • Feedback, Comments, Suggestions for the CCT-Representaion project work: CctRepresentation/CctRep_Feedback    (3DE)
      • this is for collecting feedback from the team, the ontolog community, the e-business standards development community, and the public at large to the CCT-Ontology development team (i.e. for incoming feedback, from ontolog's perspective) to collaboratively improve on the quality and relevance of this work.    (3DF)
    • Draft Feedback and Recommendations for other eBusiness Standards Working Groups: CctRepresentation/CctRep_Recommendation    (3DG)
      • this is in preparation for the compilation of position paper(s) that the CCT-Representation project team and the Ontolog community can present to the various e-business standards development bodies (i.e. for outgoinging feedback, from ontolog's perspective) that will include (but not limited to) learnings and recommendations as a result of this work.    (3DH)

•    (3DI)
  • Thu 2004.09.30 - (i) closure of [cctont] draft, and its release for comments    (3DJ)
    • see [cctont] draft v0.3b at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/CCT-Representation/wip/CCTONT-worksheet-v0-3b.html    (3DK)
    • Garret's outstanding issues - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//cctont-imp/2004-06/msg00033.html    (3DL)
      • 02-001 - SC - Binary Object. Content - relationship between graph and ComputerData    (3DM)
        • Garret: primary representation term and secondary representation term    (3DN)
        • Adam: in SUMO, graph is a platonic concept that may not necessarily have to be ComputerData    (3DO)
    • where there may be fine distinctions (like in the case of 02-006 - [UniformResourceIdentifier]) we should add narratives and use cases to help the users. (-- suggested by Adam. All agreed.)    (3DP)

•    (3DQ)
  • Conclusions from today's work:    (3DR)
  • (i) after Adam updates the changes resulted in today's discussion (into a [cctont] v0.4a which he will post), we are releasing that for comments by the ontolog community;    (3DS)
  • (ii) we are soliciting input for feedback, and recommendation for the eBusiness standards development community colleagues. Ontolog members are requested to contribute by posting to CctRepresentation/CctRep_Feedback & CctRepresentation/CctRep_Recommendation.    (3DT)

10) New project proposals    (3DU)

• item not covered    (3DV)

11) Sponsorship and funding    (3DW)

• item not covered    (3DX)

12) Other business    (3DY)

• item not covered    (3DZ)

13) Next meeting date and adjourn    (3E0)

• call adjourned 12:05pm PDT    (3E1)
• next call will be on Thu 2004.10.07 starting at 10:30am PDT    (3E2)

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 minutes captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim
 ppy / 2004.09.30 12:08 PDT    (3E3)