| In the attachment I sent in the following paragraph 
the final DOLCE relation "Temporal Part" should have been "Spatial 
Part":
 [PC1] >> One option ("model"?) left open by the SUMO 
axiomatization, for example, is that the "subProcess" may be temporally 
coincident with the parent Process, and might involve only a portion of the 
participants of the parent Process.  In a parade, for example, it seems 
that the parading of the Drum Majorette (and her twirling and tossing her baton) 
would qualify as a subProcess in SUMO (i.e. this is consistent with the axioms) 
– but would be temporally coincident and not a "temporal part".  In DOLCE 
this would be a Temporal Part.
 
 . . 
.  should have been
 
 [PC2] >> One option ("model"?) left open 
by the SUMO axiomatization, for example, is that the "subProcess" may be 
temporally coincident with the parent Process, and might involve only a portion 
of the participants of the parent Process.  In a parade, for example, it 
seems that the parading of the Drum Majorette (and her twirling and tossing her 
baton) would qualify as a subProcess in SUMO (i.e. this is consistent with the 
axioms) – but would be temporally coincident and not a "temporal part".  In 
DOLCE this would be a Spatial 
Part.
 
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On Behalf Of Cassidy, Patrick J.
 Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:19 
AM
 To: Upper Ontology Summit convention
 Subject: RE: [uos-convene]: 
Relating ontologies
 
 UOS-conveners:
 
 I think that the case presented 
by Adam Pease and the response of
 Nicola Guarino are a very good example of 
the kind of examination of
 the relations among the upper ontologies that 
could, when resolved,
 provide either translation axioms or a common subset 
ontology.  This
 case is a good example in part because it treats an 
important and
 common relation, which should be in any upper ontology, and it 
also
 elucidates some of the nuances that should be made clear in any 
upper
 ontology that we would recommend to the public for general 
use.
 
 If it were possible to get funding for a project to create a 
common
 subset ontology, this kind of analysis will be needed, and will, 
I
 think lead at the very minimum to a clear and 
comprehensive
 documentation describing the meanings of the ontology elements 
(Types,
 Relations, Axioms) in sufficient detail to eliminate all 
significant
 ambiguity and permit those elements to be used in the same sense 
by
 everyone.   I think that it also shows that, a useful common 
subset may
 be practical to build, provided that making some minor additions 
or
 changes to the existing upper ontologies were acceptable to 
the
 custodians.
 
 In the specific case of  SUMO "subProcess" and 
DOLCE "Temporal Part", I
 think Adam is correct that considering only the 
single axiom he
 presented for SUMO subProcess with the DOLCE axiom that 
axiomatized
 Temporal Part does not provide enough of a view of the 
relations
 between these two semantic relations, **but** other axioms in SUMO 
do
 indicate a very close relation between the two semantic relations 
in
 the two ontologies.  It appears to me that  SUMO "subProcess" 
and DOLCE
 "temporal part" are closely related (the latter may be a 
subrelation of
 the former), and that clarifying the relation between them 
could show
 where useful additions or additional constraining axioms could 
be
 helpful, in the common subset and possibly also in the parent 
upper
 ontologies.  I think that Adam is also correct in believing 
that
 finding the precise relations will be a non-trivial exercise for 
many
 such cases.   But I think that the exercise will be 
worthwhile.
 
 I will present some analysis on this specific issue in an 
attached file
 to illustrate the point, and will also refer to the related 
OpenCyc
 relation in that analysis.
 
 I would conclude from examining 
this case that the SUMO "subProcess"
 and DOLCE "Temporal Part" (PT or 
P.T)  are different mostly in that a
 "subProcess" could include a 
spatial part, which is a separate relation
 in DOLCE.  So the DOLCE 
"Temporal Part" appears to be a specialization
 of the "subProcess" 
relation.  These relations differ in the  way the
 additional 
implications they entail are expressed, but are closely
 enough related that 
they both could be represented by relations in a
 common subset ontology that 
could be translated into relations in each
 of the upper ontologies, provided 
that (1) a more general
 "subPerdurant" relation were added to DOLCE which 
subsumed both
 "Temporal Part" and "Spatial Part" relations on perdurants, and 
which
 would be more closely equivalent to "subProcess"; and (2) 
every
 Perdurant in DOLCE were equivalent to a Process in SUMO.  
Likewise, the
 OpenCyc "subSituations" appears to be identical to 
"subProcess", but
 that is not specified in axioms, rather it is implied in 
the OpenCyc
 documentation.  Again, to be identical, a Situation in 
OpenCyc would
 have to be equivalent to a Process in SUMO and a Perdurant in 
DOLCE.
 
 For that reason, I believe that "subProcess", "subSituation" 
and
 "Temporal Part" could all be accommodated in a common subset 
ontology,
 depending on how closely identified SUMO "Process", OpenCyc 
"Situation"
 and DOLCE "Perdurant" are.
 
 It is unclear whether DOLCE 
accommodates a specialized relation
 specifying spatiotemporal parts of 
Perdurants.  If not, this should be
 added to make a closer match with 
SUMO, OpenCyc,  BFO, and ISO 15926.
 
 I do hope it is possible to get 
funding for this kind of study.
 
 Pat
 
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On Behalf Of Adam Pease
 Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:00 PM
 To: Upper 
Ontology Summit convention
 Subject: Re: [uos-convene]: Relating 
ontologies
 
 Nicola,
 I'm not sure how the DOLCE axiom could 
be inaccurate.  I just
 copied it from a DOLCE paper.  Maybe it's 
just from an older
 version.  But of course, that's not really the 
point.  The point is
 that it's hard to merge formal ontologies.  
That you can't understand
 one SUMO relation from one example axiom (among 
many) that uses it is
 part of the point.  You would have to look at all 
the axioms that
 involve the term to appreciate its meaning, and then try to 
align
 that with all of DOLCE's relevant axioms.  That's hard, to say 
the
 least.
 Whether we call them axioms or definitions doesn't 
matter.  If
 there are rules or other statements that use the terms, and 
they
 aren't shared by both models, they would need to be 
reconciled.
 SUMO's subProcess is not a primitive.  It is 
defined as is every
 other term in SUMO.  
See
 <http://sigma.ontologyportal.org:4010/sigma/Browse.jsp?kb=SUMO&lang=en&
 term=subProcess>
 
 Adam
 
 At 
02:49 PM 3/8/2006, Nicola Guarino wrote:
 >Dear 
Adam,
 >
 >         I am very 
confused by your example.
 >
 >1. First of all, your transcription of 
the DOLCE axiom is inaccurate,
 >since the "subset" relation you mention in 
the DOLCE example is
 >indeed the temporal inclusion relation, defined in 
terms of temporal
 >locations of perdurants. We have no subset relation in 
the DOLCE
 >vocabulary.
 >
 >2. You are comparing a SUMO *axiom* 
concerning processes with a DOLCE
 >*definition* concerning the notion of 
temporal part. I guess that a
 >more interesting comparison could be 
between the SUMO relation
 >"subProcess" (which I understand is taken as 
primitive, i.e. not
 >defined) and the DOLCE relation "TemporalPart" 
(defined in terms of
 >perdurant, part, and the above mentioned temporal 
inclusion).
 >
 >3. I don't know whether "SubProcess" is suitably 
constrained in SUMO.
 >Intuitively, from the name, I understand a 
subprocess should be some
 >how a "part" of a process. Now two questions 
arise: a) is there a
 >formal relationship between SubProcess and Part in 
SUMO? b) if yes,
 >does any part of a process count as a subprocess? The 
DOLCE
 >definition clarifies these two questions, saying that a temporal 
part
 >X of a process Y is a part which is "temporally maximal", in 
the
 >sense that all parts of Y which are temporally included in X are 
also
 >parts of X. So a non-temporally maximal part of a process is not 
a
 >temporal part.
 >
 >4. We may conclude that, *IF* SUMO has 
equivalents of the DOLCE
 >notions of parthood and temporal inclusion, then 
the DOLCE definition
 >of temporal part could be used to better clarify the 
SUMO notion of
 >subprocess. In practice, limiting ourselves to this very 
simple
 >example, a suitable alignment with DOLCE may result in a more 
precise
 >ontology, in the sense that some non-intended SUMO models may 
be
 >excluded thanks to the DOLCE axiomatization. [NOTE: I am using 
the
 >term "precise" in a very technical sense - see my work on 
precision,
 >coverage and accuracy as dimensions for comparing and 
evaluating
 >ontologies: "Toward a Formal Evaluation of Ontology Quality." 
IEEE
 >Intelligent Systems 19, no. 4 (2004): 78-79.]
 >
 >5. 
However, I only focused on the SUMO subProcess relation in 
this
 >discussion. Considering the full axiom you reported results in 
more
 >puzzlement, since I cannot grasp its meaning: apparently, it 
just
 >says that every subprocess has a time. Not very 
informative...
 >
 >My conclusion is that a careful comparison between 
SUMO and DOLCE
 >concerning the relationship between the mereological 
structure of
 >processes and their temporal location could actually result 
in a
 >better understanding of these notions. I am sure that such 
improved
 >understanding could be of benefit for SUMO users, as well as 
for
 >DOLCE users willing to to comunicate with SUMO 
users.
 >
 >Best,
 >
 >Nicola
 >
 >
 >On Mar 
8, 2006, at 10:10 PM, Adam Pease wrote:
 >
 >>Hi 
John,
 >>   The example I used was of SUMO's Process vs. 
DOLCE's Perdurant.
 >>They cover a similar semantic need, but the 
details of the formal
 >>definitions, and then all the connections to 
other definitions are
 >>so complex and intertwined it seems clear to me 
that the return on
 >>investment for merging isn't there.  It's 
much easier to pick one.
 >>Trying to merge formal ontologies seems to 
me to be harder even
 >>than creating a new ontology from 
scratch.
 >>
 >>------------------------------------
 >>
 >>                         
Mapping (hard)
 >>
 >>- 
SUMO:Process
 >>
 >>(=>
 >>     
(and
 >>         (instance ?PROC 
Process)
 >>         (subProcess 
?SUBPROC ?PROC))
 >>     (exists 
(?TIME)
 >>         (time 
?SUBPROC ?TIME)))
 >>
 >>- 
DOLCE:Perdurant
 >>
 >>TemporalPart(x, y) =df perdurant(x) ^ 
Part(x, y) ^ forall z((Part
 >>(z, y) ^ z subset x) -> Part(z, 
x)
 >>
 >>-These are just some of many axioms in each 
ontology
 >>
 >>--------------------------------------
 >>
 >>
 >>Adam
 >>
 >>At 
10:01 AM 3/8/2006, bateman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
wrote:
 >>
 >>>Adam,
 >>>
 >>>you 
mentioned just now in the telecon some overheads that
 >>>you used 
yesterday (?) to illustrate irreparable
 >>>incompatibility between 
SUMO and DOLCE. Since you were
 >>>last in Bremen 2-3 years ago we 
have been working more or less
 >>>continuously on issues of relating 
deeply axiomatised
 >>>ontologies. I would be interested in seeing 
the
 >>>examples that you used so that we could 
consider
 >>>how we would be going about relating these 
incompatibilities
 >>>with our kinds of tools. This might make some 
of the
 >>>discussion more concrete when it comes to what may 
or
 >>>may not come out of the exercise of relating 
ontologies
 >>>and also help relate to the other initiatives 
and
 >>>actions in this 
direction.
 >>>
 >>>Could you send a pointer to the 
overheads?
 >>>Best,
 >>>John 
B.
 >>>
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