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Re: [oor-forum] OOR Logo Poll (2nd round) - picking the final design

To: OpenOntologyRepository-discussion <oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 07:43:35 -0700
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Thanks, Ali.  Great!    (01)

>> [ppy]  Personally, I liked your updated font more (I almost commented
>> on it earlier ...  but then, I didn't feel strongly enough, and did not
>> have a good suggestion to offer either.)
>
>  [AH]  I'm not sure which font you are referring to. I'm ambivalent
> towards them all so far :P.    (02)

[ppy]  the "updated font" is in reference to that in the
"Hashemi-OORLine" design (ref.
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR_Logo_Candidates#nid2VNF  )    (03)

the "earlier font" was in reference to those in the
"Hashemi-GreenFinal", "Hashemi-BlueFinal" and "Hashemi-GreyFinal"
designs  (ref. 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR_Logo_Candidates#nid2VGV
), and, in particular, to your remark: "In terms of font, I went with
something that was more techie, namely Agency FB. It might not be the
most immediately recognizable choice, but it is unique and looks (to
my eye) a bit futuristic. I am not particularly happy with any of the
fonts though... I would be happy to change it if someone feels
strongly about this point." (ref.
http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/2011-06/msg00000.html )    (04)


Ali & Yuri,    (05)

Please double check:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR_Logo_Candidates#nid2VND
A solicitation to the community to poll their preference will be
coming up shortly (today or tomorrow)!    (06)

Cheers.  =ppy
--    (07)


On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Ali Hashemi <ali@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ali,
>>
>> Thank you. Shall I assume this is your "final" submission?
>
> Yes, this will be the final submission.  :)
>>
>> Personally, I liked your updated font more (I almost commented on it
>> earlier ...  but then, I didn't feel strongly enough, and did not have
>> a good suggestion to offer either.)
>
>  I'm not sure which font you are referring to. I'm ambivalent towards them
> all so far :P.
>>
>> (It's not hampering our progress, but ...) I am having trouble
>> rendering your svg file (I only seem to get the left half of the
>> graphics (when I tried to open it with with Mozilla-Firefox or
>> Corel-PaintShopPro) ... is it possible that your attachment is
>> corrupted? ... see:
>>
>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OOR/OOR-Logo/OOR-Logo-finalists/OOR_bw.svg
>
> Hmmm, I'm not sure why the svg is not rendering properly. Perhaps inkscape
> saves them with extra information that is not rendered properly in browsers?
> I've tried it and it opens with Adobe's various image editing suites and
> other image editing programs. That said, the png file should render properly
> however, no?
> Ooooh, I suspect that the "canvas" I was using in the program was small, but
> the export to png took the entire image area... I'll fix it when I get home
> this evening.
> Best,
> Ali
>>
>> Regards.  =ppy
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Ali Hashemi <ali@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hello all,
>> > Here is the line art version.
>> > I changed the font, because I ended up not liking the previous one at
>> > all. I
>> > think a sans serif matches the lattice a bit better, and this one is
>> > more
>> > inviting than the previous, more abrasive one. In case anyone is
>> > curious,
>> > this one is GillSans. The other design choices are as before.
>> >
>> > The rationale behind the icon is that it is a Hasse diagram for a
>> >  Boolean
>> > lattice. It is an easily recognizable figure and reflects to some degree
>> > the
>> > structure of how ontologies are stored in OOR and hints at the lattice
>> > of
>> > theories. Imo, it speaks to users of the OOR.
>> >
>> > I've attached the *.svg in case anyone wants to fiddle.
>> > Yuri, Inkscape is a pretty decent, free graphic editing tool.
>> > Best,
>> > Ali
>>
>>
>> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Yuriy Milov <qdone@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Great!
>> >>
>> >> I cannot add too much to my submission, just could clean the image in
>> >> proper
>> >> graphic tool if it picked.
>> >> Sorry to be out of OOR comunity for a while - come back as soon as
>> >> possible.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> Yuri
>>
>>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
>> >> To: "OpenOntologyRepository-discussion" <oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:05 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [oor-forum] OOR Logo Poll (first round) -
>> >> Results:TwoFinalistsEmerged!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > [YM]  Do we have the logo already [picked]?
>> >>
>> >> [ppy]  So, Yuri ... the short answer is, "no," we have yet to
>> >> collectively make our choice.
>> >>
>> >> I accounted for a lot of the delays, but let's just say things are
>> >> moving much slower in the summer all around! :-)
>> >>
>> >> When I get Ali's "final" submission (btw, take your time, Ali), I will
>> >> create the means to poll people - first on the design, and then on the
>> >> color.
>> >>
>> >> In the mean time, please (Yuri and Ali especially) check out what I
>> >> have entered
>> >> under:
>> >> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR_Logo_Candidates#nid2VGO
>> >> and send me any corrections, updates and comments.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
>> >> --
>>
>>
>> >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Ali Hashemi <ali@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > I have yet to resend the B&W version...
>> >> > Summer + traveling + camping = little opportunity for computing :D.
>> >> > Will send the final BW submission tonight.
>> >> > Best,
>> >> > Ali
>>
>>
>> >> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Yuriy Milov <qdone@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi All,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I was out of the Inernet for a while, and now need to focus on
>> >> >> urgent
>> >> >> projets.
>> >> >> Do we have the logo already chosed?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards
>> >> >> Yuri
>>
>>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> To: "Ali Hashemi" <ali@xxxxxxxxx>; "Yuriy Milov" <qdone@xxxxxxxxxx>;
>> >> >> "OpenOntologyRepository-discussion" <oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:04 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [oor-forum] OOR Logo Poll (first round) - Results:
>> >> >> TwoFinalistsEmerged!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am (re)starting to process this for the community's final
>> >> >> selection
>> >> >> now
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Responding to you (Ali) inline below ...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Ali Hashemi <ali@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> > [AH] Hi Peter,
>> >> >> > Sure, it can be one design. Good point about the spacing, I bit
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > bullet
>> >> >> > and just stretched the text instead of trying to mess around with
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > kerning.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [ppy] great!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > [AH] As for colour, I am indifferent, leaning to Green, Blue or
>> >> >> > White/Blue.
>> >> >> > As can be seen in the attached picture that is not a logo, most
>> >> >> > web
>> >> >> > logos
>> >> >> > are situated in the Blue and Red hues, very few are in the Green.
>> >> >> > So
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > would definitely be a unique choice.
>> >> >> > Green is more vibrant, lifelike and associated with the
>> >> >> > environment
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > earth. Blue in my mind is associated with stability, authority and
>> >> >> > calmness.
>> >> >> > I think either would be a good choice for OOR.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [ppy] since YuriyMilov made his final submission in only one color,
>> >> >> maybe we (as a community) can do it in two steps - choose the
>> >> >> graphic
>> >> >> design first, and then deliberate on the color(s).
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > [AH] The rationale behind the icon is that it is a Hasse diagram
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > Boolean lattice. It is an easily recognizable figure and reflects
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > some
>> >> >> > degree the structure of how ontologies are stored in OOR and hints
>> >> >> > at
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > lattice of theories. Imo, it speaks to users of the OOR.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > In terms of font, I went with something that was more techie,
>> >> >> > namely
>> >> >> > Agency
>> >> >> > FB. It might not be the most immediately recognizable choice, but
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > unique and looks (to my eye) a bit futuristic. I am not
>> >> >> > particularly
>> >> >> > happy
>> >> >> > with any of the fonts though... I would be happy to change it if
>> >> >> > someone
>> >> >> > feels strongly about this point.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [ppy] great! ... this makes good prose to go with your final design
>> >> >> submission.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > [AH] I`m not sure what is meant by "line art" so I have not
>> >> >> > included
>> >> >> > that.
>> >> >> > Attached, please find Green, Blue and Grey-scale versions of the
>> >> >> > acronym
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > the logo.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [ppy] I am referring to a design that is rendered in 1-bit color
>> >> >> depth (say, just black-and-white, no greyscale even).
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > [AH] (If I've understood correctly then, all three comprise one
>> >> >> > design?)
>> >> >> > Best,
>> >> >> > Ali
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [ppy] Indeed! Since Yuri's final submission is in line art, if you
>> >> >> can also send a line art version of your final design submission, we
>> >> >> can (maybe) vote on the graphics without color first (as I suggested
>> >> >> above). That said, this is totally your call as to what you decide
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> finally send in.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ... in parallel, I will work on posting your final submissions to
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> wiki page (
>> >> >> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR_Logo_Candidates
>> >> >> ) and put together the online form (on surveymonkey) for folks to
>> >> >> make
>> >> >> their choices with.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>> >> >> --
>>
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