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Re: [oor-forum] OOR Logo Poll (2nd round) - picking the final design

To: OpenOntologyRepository-discussion <oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Ali Hashemi <ali@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 08:17:02 -0400
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Hi Peter,

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Ali,

Thank you. Shall I assume this is your "final" submission?

Yes, this will be the final submission.  :)

Personally, I liked your updated font more (I almost commented on it
earlier ...  but then, I didn't feel strongly enough, and did not have
a good suggestion to offer either.)

 I'm not sure which font you are referring to. I'm ambivalent towards them all so far :P. 

(It's not hampering our progress, but ...) I am having trouble
rendering your svg file (I only seem to get the left half of the
graphics (when I tried to open it with with Mozilla-Firefox or
Corel-PaintShopPro) ... is it possible that your attachment is
corrupted? ... see:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OOR/OOR-Logo/OOR-Logo-finalists/OOR_bw.svg

Hmmm, I'm not sure why the svg is not rendering properly. Perhaps inkscape saves them with extra information that is not rendered properly in browsers? I've tried it and it opens with Adobe's various image editing suites and other image editing programs. That said, the png file should render properly however, no? 

Ooooh, I suspect that the "canvas" I was using in the program was small, but the export to png took the entire image area... I'll fix it when I get home this evening.

Best,
Ali 


Regards.  =ppy
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On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Ali Hashemi <ali@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello all,
> Here is the line art version.
> I changed the font, because I ended up not liking the previous one at all. I
> think a sans serif matches the lattice a bit better, and this one is more
> inviting than the previous, more abrasive one. In case anyone is curious,
> this one is GillSans. The other design choices are as before.
>
> The rationale behind the icon is that it is a Hasse diagram for a  Boolean
> lattice. It is an easily recognizable figure and reflects to some degree the
> structure of how ontologies are stored in OOR and hints at the lattice of
> theories. Imo, it speaks to users of the OOR.
>
> I've attached the *.svg in case anyone wants to fiddle.
> Yuri, Inkscape is a pretty decent, free graphic editing tool.
> Best,
> Ali


> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Yuriy Milov <qdone@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Great!
>>
>> I cannot add too much to my submission, just could clean the image in
>> proper
>> graphic tool if it picked.
>> Sorry to be out of OOR comunity for a while - come back as soon as
>> possible.
>>
>> Regards
>> Yuri


>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: "OpenOntologyRepository-discussion" <oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [oor-forum] OOR Logo Poll (first round) -
>> Results:TwoFinalistsEmerged!
>>
>>
>> > [YM]  Do we have the logo already [picked]?
>>
>> [ppy]  So, Yuri ... the short answer is, "no," we have yet to
>> collectively make our choice.
>>
>> I accounted for a lot of the delays, but let's just say things are
>> moving much slower in the summer all around! :-)
>>
>> When I get Ali's "final" submission (btw, take your time, Ali), I will
>> create the means to poll people - first on the design, and then on the
>> color.
>>
>> In the mean time, please (Yuri and Ali especially) check out what I
>> have entered
>> under: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR_Logo_Candidates#nid2VGO
>> and send me any corrections, updates and comments.
>>
>>
>> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
>> --


>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Ali Hashemi <ali@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > I have yet to resend the B&W version...
>> > Summer + traveling + camping = little opportunity for computing :D.
>> > Will send the final BW submission tonight.
>> > Best,
>> > Ali


>> > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Yuriy Milov <qdone@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> I was out of the Inernet for a while, and now need to focus on urgent
>> >> projets.
>> >> Do we have the logo already chosed?
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> Yuri


>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
>> >> To: "Ali Hashemi" <ali@xxxxxxxxx>; "Yuriy Milov" <qdone@xxxxxxxxxx>;
>> >> "OpenOntologyRepository-discussion" <oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:04 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [oor-forum] OOR Logo Poll (first round) - Results:
>> >> TwoFinalistsEmerged!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am (re)starting to process this for the community's final selection
>> >> now
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >> Responding to you (Ali) inline below ...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Ali Hashemi <ali@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > [AH] Hi Peter,
>> >> > Sure, it can be one design. Good point about the spacing, I bit the
>> >> > bullet
>> >> > and just stretched the text instead of trying to mess around with the
>> >> > kerning.
>> >>
>> >> [ppy] great!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > [AH] As for colour, I am indifferent, leaning to Green, Blue or
>> >> > White/Blue.
>> >> > As can be seen in the attached picture that is not a logo, most web
>> >> > logos
>> >> > are situated in the Blue and Red hues, very few are in the Green. So
>> >> > it
>> >> > would definitely be a unique choice.
>> >> > Green is more vibrant, lifelike and associated with the environment
>> >> > and
>> >> > earth. Blue in my mind is associated with stability, authority and
>> >> > calmness.
>> >> > I think either would be a good choice for OOR.
>> >>
>> >> [ppy] since YuriyMilov made his final submission in only one color,
>> >> maybe we (as a community) can do it in two steps - choose the graphic
>> >> design first, and then deliberate on the color(s).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > [AH] The rationale behind the icon is that it is a Hasse diagram for
>> >> > a
>> >> > Boolean lattice. It is an easily recognizable figure and reflects to
>> >> > some
>> >> > degree the structure of how ontologies are stored in OOR and hints at
>> >> > the
>> >> > lattice of theories. Imo, it speaks to users of the OOR.
>> >> >
>> >> > In terms of font, I went with something that was more techie, namely
>> >> > Agency
>> >> > FB. It might not be the most immediately recognizable choice, but it
>> >> > is
>> >> > unique and looks (to my eye) a bit futuristic. I am not particularly
>> >> > happy
>> >> > with any of the fonts though... I would be happy to change it if
>> >> > someone
>> >> > feels strongly about this point.
>> >>
>> >> [ppy] great! ... this makes good prose to go with your final design
>> >> submission.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > [AH] I`m not sure what is meant by "line art" so I have not included
>> >> > that.
>> >> > Attached, please find Green, Blue and Grey-scale versions of the
>> >> > acronym
>> >> > and
>> >> > the logo.
>> >>
>> >> [ppy] I am referring to a design that is rendered in 1-bit color
>> >> depth (say, just black-and-white, no greyscale even).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > [AH] (If I've understood correctly then, all three comprise one
>> >> > design?)
>> >> > Best,
>> >> > Ali
>> >>
>> >> [ppy] Indeed! Since Yuri's final submission is in line art, if you
>> >> can also send a line art version of your final design submission, we
>> >> can (maybe) vote on the graphics without color first (as I suggested
>> >> above). That said, this is totally your call as to what you decide to
>> >> finally send in.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ... in parallel, I will work on posting your final submissions to the
>> >> wiki page ( http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OOR_Logo_Candidates
>> >> ) and put together the online form (on surveymonkey) for folks to make
>> >> their choices with.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>> >> --

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