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From: Fabian Neuhaus <fneuhaus@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:34:38 -0500
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Matthew, 
Yes, examining the logical consequences of an ontology is a method of 
evaluating accuracy_F. However, the fact that one way to measure accuracy_F 
involves logical consequences of an ontology does not mean that the definition 
of accuracy_F needs to involve logical consequences of the ontology. After all, 
one way to measure the speed of a moving object is using the doppler effect; 
but the definition of speed does not mention the doppler effect. 
Best
Fabian     (01)


On Jan 25, 2013, at 3:53 AM, Matthew West wrote:    (02)

> Dear Fabian,
> Yes, but how do we know all the axioms are true? One check you can make is
> that there are no unintended consequences in the inferences.
> Regards
> Matthew
> On Jan 23, 2013 8:08 PM, "Fabian Neuhaus" <fneuhaus@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 28 Dec 2012, at 17:50, Fabian Neuhaus wrote:
>> 
>> Second, I don't see the need to explicitly talk about all inferences from
>> the axioms as long as we are concerned with ontology languages that are
>> based on  truth-preserving deductive inference systems like Common Logic
> or
>> OWL. If all the axioms in X are true it follows that all inferences from
>> the axioms in X are true.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The statement as given is theoretically true but seriously misleading in
>> practice.  Belief in it has led to serious harm - e.g. potentially
>> life-threatening errors in medical ontologies.  If human beings could
>> recognise all the inferences that follow from a set of axioms, we wouldn't
>> need reasoners.  Axioms can be superficially plausible but have unexpected
>> consequences, especially when combined with other superficially plausible
>> axioms.   Subtle errors in axioms that are difficult to spot can have
>> disproportionate effects.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We can only know that a set of axioms is accurate by examining the
>> inferences that follow from them to see if any are false.  (Of course we
>> can't examine all inferences except in trivial cases, but systematic
>> searches for unanticipated inferences is central to the QA of any ontology
>> in which inference plays a significant role.)
>> 
>> I have watched top logicians spend hours trying to understand the
>> reasoning that led to an obviously false inference from what seemed an
>> obviously correct set of axioms, even with the help of automatic theorem
>> provers, justification finders, etc.
>> 
>> Add to this the difficulties of axioms derived from work by domain
>> experts, no matter how clever the tools, and there is more than ample
>> opportunity for incorrect inferences from apparently correct axioms.
>> 
> 
> 
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