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May I suggest the use of Goldratt's Thinking Process
Methodology and Software Tools that support this methodology to
identify, define and mitigate the problem!!!
V.V.
Ramayya
The Boeing Company
Seattle, WA
USA
Ali said:
"And half the
problem is in understanding the problem domain
anyway"
Perhaps much more than half. See Michael Brodies comments in this excellent
video of a panel discussion on industrial uptake of semantic technology.
He said you need to spend much more time understanding the problem
domain and how the technology can apply, than you spend on developing the
technology itself.
Michael
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ali
and All,
Given this input, and the useful dialog around it that we had
during
the (Apr-7) Communique draft review session - ref.
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_04_07#nid2RUR
...
and the conversation below that - can I interest you to roll that
up into
an "elevator pitch" and post that input to:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2011_MakingTheCase_CommunityInput#nid2NFS
I
extend this solicitation again to everyone who has been refining
(or
helping the community refine) his/her message about "the case
for
Ontology", we will be pointing people to those inputs ... so,
please
please send them in NOW (before the end of day Friday)!
...
feel free to send those Elevator Pitches and Sound Bites in, ASAP,
through
the online survey form, post it to the wiki, or even email
them to me (if
you want me to post them to the wiki for you.) - see:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2011_MakingTheCase_CommunityInput#nid2NFS
Thanks
& regards. =ppy
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From: Ali Hashemi <ali@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at
11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2011: Communique
draft
review session - Thu 2011.04.07.
To: Ontology Summit 2011
discussion <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc:
Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Some
comments about the take aways that Michael Uschold mentioned
(bullet points
1-7 & also 1-5a-b on the draft Communiqué).
Familiar Friend
I
would like to propose an integral take away that might not be
as
immediately concrete as those specified there, but would
nonetheless
play an important role in the decision making
process.
Specifically, I would want a reader to come away with the
feeling that
an ontology "fits". It's not a new, foreign, idea that one
would have
to expend a lot of energy to integrate to a particular
socio-technical
system, but a natural outgrowth of whatever it was you were
already
doing.
Sort of like "We've been doing ontology all along,
but I never knew it".
===
Ontological Analysis vs
Artifact
I would also like to suggest a clearer delineation between an
ontology
artefact and the methodology and process of ontological analysis.
I
think there is market just for the latter, even if it
doesn't
necessarily result in a formal, computational
ontology.
Namely, given the current state of adoption and most
importantly,
comprehension in industry of ontology, it might not be
possible to
demonstrate how an ontology artifact would necessarily lead
to
immediate benefits. Indeed, as was pointed out in the
just-completed
telecon, it is very difficult to consistently come up with a
set of
generic value metrics to judge the success of a program. And half
the
problem is in understanding the problem domain anyway. If a company
is
unfamiliar with ontology, would they even be able to articulate
their
problem clearly and map it to such metrics?
Alternatively, it
should be possible how ontological analysis of the
business (organization)
domain (process / subdomain / problem) can
help the
business:
increase self-awareness
identify possible ways that an
ontology artifact(s) can deliver value
develop a road map for a long term
plan of incrementally deploying
semantic technologies
Yes, these are
notoriously difficult ROI cases, that have to be
tailored to each
particular context. But they are necessary stepping
stones / landmarks in
any strategy.
To summarize and rephrase:
An additional key take
away might be that - even if I am a business
that has no clear/concrete
idea of how ontology might help me out
(especially as a particular type of
technology solution -- should i go
with OWL? a data dictionary? a full-on
ontology? what level of
reasoning do I really need, if at all?), I
should at least come away
feeling that ontological analysis is absolutely
necessary for any
possible solution. It is an essential component of my
ability as a
manager or decision maker in my company to make an informed
choice as
to how to go forward. And without such work, I might not know
enough
about my problem domain from an ontology perspective to be able
to
intelligently pick and choose the most relevant use caes.
The
result of simply engaging an ontology-based analysis might then
suggest to
start with a simple vocabulary or terminology, or to simply
enhance key
components of a db here, or a best practices there. It
would come up with
the value metrics itself. That is to say, no
immediate full scale
commitment to any particular ontology artifact,
but a commitment to
ontological analysis and modeling. This is a far
less expensive endeavor,
and already sets the pre-sale for the next
one (if applicable).
Is this
(un)clear?
Cheers,
Ali
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www.pinkarmy.org
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