Hello Joab, (01)
I point I was trying to make to Deborah was that it might be more
relevant (in the article) to identify individuals by the standards
bodies they (their projects actually) represent, more so than their
employers. (02)
One of the greatest success of this summit, in my opinion, is that it
rallied support to this theme of moving the world toward
"ontology-based standards" from some of the banner carriers and work
group leads from among the most important Standards Developing
Organizations ... and that *is* a real accomplishment, thanks to all
the summit co-organizers and conveners. (03)
Regards. =ppy
-- (04)
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 7:44 AM, MacPherson, Deborah
<dmacpherson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Joab,
>
> Per Peter's recommendation I would like to provide you with more description
>about my background and standards work:
>
> MAIN: Specifications and Research, Cannon Design an architectural engineering
>firm, please refer to http://www.cannondesign.com. Our building typologies
>include healthcare, education from K-12 to university campus, public buildings
>such as courthouses, commercial and sports arenas. I work with the
>specifications and am trying to build an ontology to make sense of a growing
>knowledge base and ease the transition from CAD to BIM.
>
> SECOND: Projects Director, Accuracy&Aesthetics an interdisciplinary nonprofit
>organization, please refer to http://accuracyandaesthetics.com our mission is
>building consensus, treating the construction of semantic space as if it were
>a series of large scale public building projects. Important goals include
>getting tools such as the semantic web into the hands of regular people like
>teachers.
>
> WORKGROUPS, INTEGRAL TO BOTH ABOVE:
>
> National Building Information Modeling Standard:
>
> Consensus Task Team writing the procedures for the consensus process
>(hopefully will begin voting soon!) and;
>
> Model Implementation Guide team, who reviews the Model View Definitions,
>please refer to http://www.blis-project.org/IAI-MVD/
>
>
> OmniClass http://www.omniclass.org/
>
> Properties, Table 49. The term "properties" may have different meaning in
>other communities. OmniClass properties have no meaning out of context, they
>are assigned to elements in the other tables. Combining multiple properties
>with multiple classifications in other tables can result in a rich description
>for any one building or element. The current challenge is translating these
>very long multi-component numbers into more compact human readable form. There
>is a new, collaborative effort with the Open Geospatial consortium to define a
>small set of location properties in the slides presented at the conference.
>
> Facility and Space Types - Tables 11 to 14
> It can be surprisingly difficult to distinguish between a facility and space
>in the context of the building codes, for example a garage could be its own
>building or part of another building but this construction type is the same as
>far as use groups go. There is starting to be overlap with the geospatial
>community for structures and spaces such as outdoor amphitheaters, fish ponds,
>and baseball fields that do not have walls or roofs. Ideally a small task
>force can settle these, similar to the location properties, but a larger list
>of items with a need for broader collaboration. For example participants from
>the parks and recreation community and the US geological survey would add an
>extremely helpful perspective. Guidance from the 15926 community is
>particularly relevant at this time regarding the classification of space
>inside process plants. In general, there have been concerns about where the
>building space classes should stop above the floor. For example, cable trays
>and piping that interfere with access and the definition of what is considered
>occupy-able space. There are tax implications and similar concerns about
>giving names and classifications to too many spaces that can be excluded from
>interior gross areas (IE: rent and property value). Particularly Table 13,
>Spaces by Function is also becoming very useful to report percentages and
>types of spaces used to compare a model with the Owner's program or a
>jurisdiction's requirements. The Facility Types especially Table 11 are useful
>for geospatial needs including emergency response, allocation of resources and
>being able to study which public services are covered in a particular area or
>across an entire state, the country, or the world.
>
> Activities and Processes - how all the tables work together.
>
> Please incorporate whatever relevant points you can from above and thank you
>Peter for bringing to my attention.
>
> Regards,
>
> Deborah MacPherson
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Yim
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 6:35 PM
> To: Joab Jackson
> Cc: Stein, Ben; Ontology Summit 2009
> Subject: [ontology-summit] GCN article on OntologySummit2009 by Joab Jackson
>- 2009.04.07 [was - Fwd: Slight amendment to Gerry's request, plus a synopsis
>request]
>
> Hello Joab,
>
> Re your write-up at: http://gcn.com/articles/2009/04/07/nist-ontology.aspx
>
> Great job ... thank you *very* much for capturing the essence of such a
>complex issue in such elegant prose!
>
> Regards. =ppy
> --
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Steve Ray <steve@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [ontology-summit] Slight amendment to Gerry's
> request, plus a synopsis request
> To: Joab Jackson <jjackson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
>
>
> Joab,
>
> I just wanted to personally thank you for covering our summit.
>Since you posted the notice about the article to the ontology-summit list, I
>imagine you are reading the responses that it has produced. Some people are
>also squirming a bit about the title claiming data reuse is not possible
>without ontological work (it's could be possible, but just much harder without
>ontologies) but I imagine it would be difficult to change the title of the
>article - and not very attention-grabbing if it were to say "Data reuse more
>difficult without ontological work". I recognize the constant tension between
>engineers and scientists on the one hand, who want to avoid overstepping a
>claim, and the media (and the political world, I would
> venture) who strive for clarity in a message.
>
> In any case, I will continue to think about the comments
>coming in on the list, and review your article. If I come up with something
>that I think is critical to amend, I will let you know.
>
>
>
> Thanks again,
>
>
>
> - Steve
>
>
> Steven R. Ray, Ph.D.
> Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Phone: (650) 587-3780 (CA)
> (202) 362-5059 (DC)
> Cell: (202) 316-6481
>
>
>
> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joab Jackson
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:07 AM
> To: Ontology Summit 2009
> Cc: Stein, Ben
> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Slight amendment to Gerry's request, plus a
>synopsis request
>
>
>
> Hello!
>
>
>
> Joab Jackson here from Government Computer News. I've written up a quick
>summary of the communiqué and the meeting. We posted it
> yesterday:
>
>
>
> http://gcn.com/articles/2009/04/07/nist-ontology.aspx
>
>
>
> I've tried to capture the details as accurately as possible, but if I made
>any mistakes, please shoot me an email and we'll get them corrected.
>
>
>
> I know the new administration is talking quite a bit about government reuse
>of data, so this topic is quite pertinent these days.
>
>
>
> Thanks again for letting me attend.
>
>
> Joab
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
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> Government Computer News
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