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Re: [ontology-summit] [ontolog-forum] what is open ontology?

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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:06:41 +0100
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Dear Pat,
Where ontologies or similar artefacts like data models are concerned, "open" is usually used to refer to the process by which it is created, i.e. one that has no restrictions on who can participate in its development.
I know that sense, which you have raised before. However, I think the subsequent discussion revealed that this is not the primary sense of "open" with which we are concerned in this forum, but was something more like "open source".  
MW: If we mean "open source" then we should say "open source" and not just "open".
 And in any case, with this sense of 'open', I doubt if any nontrivial open ontology could ever be constructed. 
MW: What do you mean by non-trivial? Are you suggesting that we should not include ontologies that are trivial?

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It is also used as the opposite of private (so you can't read it) or proprietary (someone owns and controls it)
Which is why I used the analogy of the Word document, i.e. its 'open' if its not private and is freely available; matters simply of file permissions and copyright law.

Pat


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From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Pat Hayes
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] what is open ontology?

At 7:59 PM +0700 4/21/08, paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Greetings

In preparation for next week summit which has as a central theme open ontology repository, I am trying to sum up work done to date in this area.

The first point that I need to clear up is:  ' what is open ontology', I think having an idea of what different people mean by 'open ontology', may help us to develop the discourse around OOR, and to contribute more meaningfully to the objectives of the workshop

As I understand the phrase, the initial 'open' in 'open ontology repository' is meant to qualify 'repository' rather than 'ontology'. That is, we are talking about an open repository of ontologies. What exactly this means is of course open for discussion, of which there has already been quite a good deal, and (guess what) people don't all agree. But the debate has been about the openness of the repository, not of the ontologies. I don't think it makes sense to refer to an ontology as being open (or not).

Pat


My early take linked below, I would be happy to share notes on the work done in this last year, as well as to hear how the work of this summit is related or differs to the points below

http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?PaolaDiMaio/Towards_OpenOntology



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