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Re: [ontology-summit] Framework/Dimension Map [was - Re: Ontology Summit

To: "Ontology Summit 2007 Forum" <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Nancy Wiegand <wiegand@xxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Peter Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:44:15 -0700
Message-id: <af8f58ac0705170844k4959e237ra979c8b5169d9ede@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I've posted Nancy Wiegand's comments (regarding the diagram) to the
wiki too. See: 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_Communique/CommentsSuggestions#nid11BD    (01)

Thank you, Nancy.    (02)

Regards.  =ppy
--    (03)


On 5/17/07, Peter F Brown <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Indeed, all comments welcome, particularly when divergence is spotted between 
>the diagram and the communiqué...
>
> Peter    (04)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter P. Yim
> Sent: 17 May 2007 07:46
> To: Ontology Summit 2007 Forum
> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Framework/Dimension Map [was - Re: Ontology 
>Summit 2007 postmortem]
>
> Peter (Brown),
>
> Thanks.
>
> I assume you are circulating this updating diagram for dicussion
> purposes ... let me know when you have consensus (at least from
> your team) to replace the existing diagram on the DimensionsMap
> page (at:
> 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_FrameworksForConsideration/DimensionsMap).
>
> Regards.  =ppy
> --    (05)


> Peter F Brown wrote Thu, 17 May 2007 00:42:21 +0200:
> > All:
> > attached is the "immediately post Summit" revision of the diagram, taking 
>on board comments from our working group and others regarding Gestalt. I hope 
>to have some time in the next days to take this a few steps further, including 
>checking/modifying it against the prose of the Summit communiqué. It should be 
>read (and interpreted) in context with the notes associated with the initial 
>diagram at: 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_FrameworksForConsideration/DimensionsMap
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > -------------
> > Peter F Brown
> > Founder, Pensive.eu
> > Chair, CEN eGovernment Focus Group
> > Co-Editor, OASIS SOA Reference Model
> > Lecturer at XML Summer School
> > ---
> > Personal:
> > +43 676 610 0250
> > http://public.xdi.org/=Peter.Brown
> > www.XMLbyStealth.net
> > www.xmlsummerschool.com    (06)


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Teller
> > Sent: 15 May 2007 04:27
> > To: Ontology Summit 2007 Forum
> > Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Framework/Dimension Map [was - Re: Ontology 
>Summit 2007 postmortem]
> >
> > Peter, can I see the revised vision (version) that you have created?
> >
> > Jack    (07)


> > Peter Yim wrote May 10, 2007 3:48 PM PDT:
> >> Hi Peter (Brown),
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >>> [PFB]  I have already refined the map a bit further, after talking
> >>> more with some of the participants, ...
> >>>
> >> [ppy]  Thank you for doing the update.
> >>
> >> In particular, have you had a chance to touch base with the rest of
> >> your OntologySummit2007_Population_Session breakout group Z (ref:
> >> 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_Population_Session#nid10L5)
> >> to address the issue raised by Nancy Wiegand (of U. of
> >> Wisconsin-Madison) on April-29 (which I copied your team on Apr-30)?
> >>
> >> Reason for my quesiton is: per our discussion at the Summit organizing
> >> committee postmortem meeting, we decided not to re-open the communique
> >> for another round of updates and adoption, but did intend to encourage
> >> an update to the diagram (since the communique points to it) so that
> >> it will be consistent with the text of communique.
> >>
> >>
> >>> [PFB]  Is it possible to load this newer version somehow?
> >>>
> >> [ppy]  Of course, I shall look forward to it. Please e-mail it to me
> >> (like you did last time) when you are done, and I will post it.
> >>
> >> [Nominally, members of Ontolog are welcomed to do their own posting to
> >> the shared-file repository themselves -- ref. instructions at
> >> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ToolsCollaboration#nidAVL ...
> >> however, since we regard the proceedings of the Ontology Summit as a
> >> historic archive, we are making that archive a "maintained" set of
> >> content now.]
> >>
> >> Thank you, again, to your team (group-Z: PeterBrown, DeniseBedford,
> >> JimDisbrow, JackTeller, SusanTurnbull) for coming up with this
> >> wonderful diagram.
> >>
> >> Regards.  =ppy
> >> --    (08)


> >> On 5/10/07, Peter F Brown <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Peter:
> >>> Thanks to you and the hosts again, it was a real experience.
> >>>
> >>> I have one question for the list, regarding the "concept map" that we
> >>> came up with in our working group at the summit:
> >>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_FrameworksFor
> >>> Consideration/DimensionsMap
> >>>
> >>> I'm thinking of using this further in a couple of discussions in Europe
> >>> over the coming months - does anyone have any comments regarding either
> >>> its usefulness or missing elements? Thanks to Debbie who's already added
> >>> one comment - maybe others could do the same and/or discuss it on the
> >>> list...
> >>>
> >>> Peter (Yim): I have already refined the map a bit further, after talking
> >>> more with some of the participants, in particular to put Gestalt and
> >>> "things that cast no shadows" also there on the map... Is it possible to
> >>> load this newer version somehow? Otherwise I can point from the existing
> >>> page to our website, and put it there..
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Peter
> >>>
> >>> -------------
> >>> Peter F Brown
> >>> Founder, Pensive.eu
> >>> Chair, CEN eGovernment Focus Group
> >>> Co-Editor, OASIS SOA Reference Model
> >>> Lecturer at XML Summer School
> >>> ---
> >>> Personal:
> >>> +43 676 610 0250
> >>> http://public.xdi.org/=Peter.Brown
> >>> www.XMLbyStealth.net
> >>> www.xmlsummerschool.com    (09)


> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Yim
> >>> Sent: 03 May 2007 17:04
> >>> To: Ontology Summit 2007 Forum
> >>> Cc: [ontolog-forum]
> >>> Subject: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2007 postmortem
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to all the contributions and support from the community,
> >>> Ontology Summit 2007 has been a real experience.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Highlight:
> >>>
> >>> *  the summit was co-sponsored by 49 institutions -- which included
> >>> some of the most prestigious organizations in the broader domain. See:
> >>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007#nidT6A
> >>>
> >>> *  about 400 messages were exchanged on the [ontology-summit] forum
> >>> since the 18-Jan-2007 OntologySummit2007 Launch. Another ~1200
> >>> messages were exchanged on [ontolog-forum] between Jan~Apr'07. --
> >>> Generating a totally unprecedented level of activities (within the
> >>> community) in rigorous discourse among some of the best minds in the
> >>> field. See, respectively:
> >>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/ &
> >>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/
> >>>
> >>> *  52 people responded to the OntologySummit2007_Survey, engaging
> >>> participants from the broader community involving some 34
> >>> constituencies. See:
> >>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_Survey
> >>>
> >>> *   (to date) the OntologySummit2007_Communique has been endorsed by
> >>> 56 individuals. See:
> >>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_Communique#ni
> >>> d10OX
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 1.  We'll be devoting some time at today's regular Ontolog operations
> >>> planning and review call to do a postmortem, and to discussion some
> >>> possible follow-up actions. You are invited to come join us at the
> >>> call. See details at:
> >>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2007_05_03
> >>>
> >>> 2.  In the last OntologySummit2007 organizing committee meeting (Tue
> >>> 2007.05.01), a similar exercise was conducted. Anyone interested can
> >>> see the proceedings from that call at:
> >>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007/OrganizingCom
> >>> mitteeMeeting_2007_05_01#nid10UN
> >>>
> >>> 3.  A few suggestions were received to re-open the dialog to further
> >>> refine the Summit Communique and come up with a "next version" of the
> >>> document. After due discussion it was decided that since this
> >>> communique serves well to represent a snapshot position of the summit
> >>> conveners, we will (after correcting typos and formatting enhancement
> >>> where applicable) just leave it at version 1.0  for now. We would,
> >>> however, invite the community to post their comments and further
> >>> suggestions, which we can use as a reference for future work. Please
> >>> post them to:
> >>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_Communique/Co
> >>> mmentsSuggestions
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
> >>>
> >>> for and on behalf of the
> >>> Ontology Summit 2007 Organizing Committee
> >>> --
> >>>
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