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Re: [ontology-summit] Framework/Dimension Map [was - Re: Ontology Summit

To: "Ontology Summit 2007 Forum" <ontology-summit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Peter F Brown" <peter@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:55:20 +0200
Message-id: <1B2253B0359130439EA571FF30251AAE025868@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Indeed, all comments welcome, particularly when divergence is spotted between 
the diagram and the communiqué...    (01)

Peter    (02)

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter P. Yim
Sent: 17 May 2007 07:46
To: Ontology Summit 2007 Forum
Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Framework/Dimension Map [was - Re: Ontology 
Summit 2007 postmortem]    (03)

Peter (Brown),    (04)

Thanks.    (05)

I assume you are circulating this updating diagram for dicussion 
purposes ... let me know when you have consensus (at least from 
your team) to replace the existing diagram on the DimensionsMap 
page (at: 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_FrameworksForConsideration/DimensionsMap).    (06)

Regards.  =ppy
--    (07)


Peter F Brown wrote Thu, 17 May 2007 00:42:21 +0200:
> All:
> attached is the "immediately post Summit" revision of the diagram, taking on 
>board comments from our working group and others regarding Gestalt. I hope to 
>have some time in the next days to take this a few steps further, including 
>checking/modifying it against the prose of the Summit communiqué. It should be 
>read (and interpreted) in context with the notes associated with the initial 
>diagram at: 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_FrameworksForConsideration/DimensionsMap
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Teller
> Sent: 15 May 2007 04:27
> To: Ontology Summit 2007 Forum
> Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Framework/Dimension Map [was - Re: Ontology 
>Summit 2007 postmortem]
> 
> Peter, can I see the revised vision (version) that you have created?
> 
> Jack    (09)


> Peter Yim wrote:
>> Hi Peter (Brown),
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>   
>>> [PFB]  I have already refined the map a bit further, after talking
>>> more with some of the participants, ...
>>>     
>> [ppy]  Thank you for doing the update.
>>
>> In particular, have you had a chance to touch base with the rest of
>> your OntologySummit2007_Population_Session breakout group Z (ref:
>> 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_Population_Session#nid10L5)
>> to address the issue raised by Nancy Wiegand (of U. of
>> Wisconsin-Madison) on April-29 (which I copied your team on Apr-30)?
>>
>> Reason for my quesiton is: per our discussion at the Summit organizing
>> committee postmortem meeting, we decided not to re-open the communique
>> for another round of updates and adoption, but did intend to encourage
>> an update to the diagram (since the communique points to it) so that
>> it will be consistent with the text of communique.
>>
>>   
>>> [PFB]  Is it possible to load this newer version somehow?
>>>     
>> [ppy]  Of course, I shall look forward to it. Please e-mail it to me
>> (like you did last time) when you are done, and I will post it.
>>
>> [Nominally, members of Ontolog are welcomed to do their own posting to
>> the shared-file repository themselves -- ref. instructions at
>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ToolsCollaboration#nidAVL ...
>> however, since we regard the proceedings of the Ontology Summit as a
>> historic archive, we are making that archive a "maintained" set of
>> content now.]
>>
>> Thank you, again, to your team (group-Z: PeterBrown, DeniseBedford,
>> JimDisbrow, JackTeller, SusanTurnbull) for coming up with this
>> wonderful diagram.
>>
>> Regards.  =ppy
>> --    (010)


>> On 5/10/07, Peter F Brown <peter@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>   
>>> Peter:
>>> Thanks to you and the hosts again, it was a real experience.
>>>
>>> I have one question for the list, regarding the "concept map" that we
>>> came up with in our working group at the summit:
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_FrameworksFor
>>> Consideration/DimensionsMap
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of using this further in a couple of discussions in Europe
>>> over the coming months - does anyone have any comments regarding either
>>> its usefulness or missing elements? Thanks to Debbie who's already added
>>> one comment - maybe others could do the same and/or discuss it on the
>>> list...
>>>
>>> Peter (Yim): I have already refined the map a bit further, after talking
>>> more with some of the participants, in particular to put Gestalt and
>>> "things that cast no shadows" also there on the map... Is it possible to
>>> load this newer version somehow? Otherwise I can point from the existing
>>> page to our website, and put it there..
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> -------------
>>> Peter F Brown
>>> Founder, Pensive.eu
>>> Chair, CEN eGovernment Focus Group
>>> Co-Editor, OASIS SOA Reference Model
>>> Lecturer at XML Summer School
>>> ---
>>> Personal:
>>> +43 676 610 0250
>>> http://public.xdi.org/=Peter.Brown
>>> www.XMLbyStealth.net
>>> www.xmlsummerschool.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Yim
>>> Sent: 03 May 2007 17:04
>>> To: Ontology Summit 2007 Forum
>>> Cc: [ontolog-forum]
>>> Subject: [ontology-summit] Ontology Summit 2007 postmortem
>>>
>>> Thanks to all the contributions and support from the community,
>>> Ontology Summit 2007 has been a real experience.
>>>
>>>
>>> Highlight:
>>>
>>> *  the summit was co-sponsored by 49 institutions -- which included
>>> some of the most prestigious organizations in the broader domain. See:
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007#nidT6A
>>>
>>> *  about 400 messages were exchanged on the [ontology-summit] forum
>>> since the 18-Jan-2007 OntologySummit2007 Launch. Another ~1200
>>> messages were exchanged on [ontolog-forum] between Jan~Apr'07. --
>>> Generating a totally unprecedented level of activities (within the
>>> community) in rigorous discourse among some of the best minds in the
>>> field. See, respectively:
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/ &
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/
>>>
>>> *  52 people responded to the OntologySummit2007_Survey, engaging
>>> participants from the broader community involving some 34
>>> constituencies. See:
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_Survey
>>>
>>> *   (to date) the OntologySummit2007_Communique has been endorsed by
>>> 56 individuals. See:
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_Communique#ni
>>> d10OX
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.  We'll be devoting some time at today's regular Ontolog operations
>>> planning and review call to do a postmortem, and to discussion some
>>> possible follow-up actions. You are invited to come join us at the
>>> call. See details at:
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2007_05_03
>>>
>>> 2.  In the last OntologySummit2007 organizing committee meeting (Tue
>>> 2007.05.01), a similar exercise was conducted. Anyone interested can
>>> see the proceedings from that call at:
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007/OrganizingCom
>>> mitteeMeeting_2007_05_01#nid10UN
>>>
>>> 3.  A few suggestions were received to re-open the dialog to further
>>> refine the Summit Communique and come up with a "next version" of the
>>> document. After due discussion it was decided that since this
>>> communique serves well to represent a snapshot position of the summit
>>> conveners, we will (after correcting typos and formatting enhancement
>>> where applicable) just leave it at version 1.0  for now. We would,
>>> however, invite the community to post their comments and further
>>> suggestions, which we can use as a reference for future work. Please
>>> post them to:
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2007_Communique/Co
>>> mmentsSuggestions
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
>>>
>>> for and on behalf of the
>>> Ontology Summit 2007 Organizing Committee
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