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Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology for Gun Control

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From: "Donald C. Lindsay" <don.lindsay@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 04:33:06 -0700
Message-id: <201307100433.08689.don.lindsay@xxxxxxxxx>
That's correct, this is not the right forum for that.    (01)

On Monday, April 29, 2013 06:34:00 PM Tom Knorr wrote:
> This is going to get interesting!
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe we can find some people that actually know something 
about guns to
> contribute.
> 
> 
> 
> My contribution to policies:
> 
> -          People that refuse to defend themselves and rely on 
police for
> security should pay a special tax to fund these protection 
services
> (similar to the California SRA Fire fee (tax) for rural areas).
> 
> 
> 
> Comments to yours:
> 
> -          guns have already serial numbers!
> 
> -          Gun registration (as you propose) is the start of gun
> confiscation (study history someday), I don't think that will 
happen in
> this country (USA) without violence.
> 
> -          Making the NRA partially responsible when the 
pharmaceutical
> industry is pushing the drugs that were involved in all of the 
latest mass
> shootings is also questionable.
> 
> -          I am not against background checks; in California we 
have that
> already. I am not sure how you can talk the criminals into taking 
a
> background check before obtaining a firearm for a crime spree.
> 
> -          Equally important to a check is that the firearm owner is
> getting the training to properly use the firearm, including the 
criminal,
> civil and social consequences of using them. That is something 
that I find
> lacking in most firearm owners.
> 
> -          Brainstorming about future systems is great, just keep in 
mind
> that we already have about 300.000.000 firearms in circulation 
that will
> not have biometrics or remote control. (brings up an idea of 
creating an
> ontology of how to sell that kind of technology: Ooops, you 
cannot use
> your firearm that you have been carrying for years on your side 
because
> your fingerprint reader cannot recognize your sweaty trigger 
finger and
> you cannot keep it still enough while that drugged attacker is 
stabbing
> you repeatedly. At least the attacker cannot do anything with 
that gun
> either, unless he takes your finger with it). Or even better: No 
cell
> signal, gun is locked.
> 
> 
> 
> I think the only value such an exercise has is to maybe educate 
a few
> people that know nothing about guns. That would be small 
progress.
> 
> This is probably not the right forum for this.
> 
> 
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
>   _____
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> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Pavithra
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:13 PM
> To: [ontolog-forum]
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Ontology for Gun Control
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> 
> I think we should develop Ontology for Gun Control policy.  That 
would help
> our society to reduce violence.   and put this forum for some 
good use.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> These are my ideas:  (These are first cut at the requirements)!
> 
> 
> 
> -  We should have policy to support the following :
> 
> 
> 
> -  People should have background check, and obtain Gun 
operation permit to
> operate a Gun
> 
> -  People should have permit & registration to own a gun.
> 
> -  Gun owners should have insurance, in case of misuse to cover 
the victims
> and NRA should be partly responsible for it.
> 
> - Gun Manufactures should have a Gun identification number 
inscribed to
> each GUN ( Like VIN for vehicles GIN for Guns).  They  can use 
smart chip
> to do so as well.
> 
> -  Government should create  an agency or part of an agency to 
handle Gun
> ownerships similar to DMV,  to maintain, registration info about  
Guns and
> owners, permits, background checks and insurance.
> 
> 
> 
> For future Technology Solutions  ..
> 
>   - Gun Manufactures should use smart chip to capture owners 
bio metrics
> and GUN Id and  there should be private Key and Public key 
policy to
> operate the guns.   So Smart Chip can verify the owners 
biometrics  before
> letting the gun fire, ( private key stuff) and  only law authority 
should
> have access to public keys  to lock the guns in case of crime or 
illegal
> usage.
> 
> 
> 
>   -  To do this you do not need a smart chip,  Law Authorities  can 
use
> mechanical remote locking like in cars,  using public keys to 
stop the guns
> from firing.
>   - If we have smart chip capability, Law agencies should be 
provided with
> technological ability to trace the guns using smart chips and 
read the
> information off of it remotely and to help control gun usage to 
stop
> criminal activities ??
> 
> ..  we can collaborate  and  refine such ideas for the ontology 
and help
> law makers ??
> 
> 
> 
> Pavithra
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>   _____
> 
> From: Jack Park <jackpark@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: [ontolog-forum] <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 7:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] FW:
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> 
> 
http://www.hchs.edu/sites/default/files/files/Raspberry%20Ketones.pdf
> 
> Can someone point to an ontology (or ontologies) that cover(s) 
this topic
> area?
> 
> Thanks
> Jack
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:58 AM, <phayes@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> http://www.rrm-rederiodemedicina.com.br/antgo/y8ndrw.php
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