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From: | William Frank <williamf.frank@xxxxxxxxx> |
Date: | Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:53:20 -0400 |
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Fabulous. I find this to be an immensely valuable overview yet with lots of important details. I would most appreciate it if you would care to comment on the following two matters related to your presentation: 1. I wonder, that the *transition* from Aristotle, who seems to me to be talking about patterns such as his categories, and tools such as logic, to those attempting to use those patterns and tools to create a single hierchy of being, (e.g. the tree of Porphyry) is not more stressed. Personally, I have found these patterns and tools, such as mathematical logic, logical English, and UML, immensely useful for creating narrowly defined domain ontologies, for a given purpose. They seem to work quite well when applied narrowly. 2. An "upper ontology" is a very different matter. There, perhaps human thought and language is not so easily described. I wonder that you do not mention Wittgenstein's concept of family resemblance , and the related reflections in say Lakoff's Women, Fire and Dangerous Things as a possible challenge to and reason why the immense work on upper ontologies has found less success than it might. Personally, I think that the vast complexity of the world needs something much richer than hierachies to describe it. I would guess that if someone were to attempt an effective upper ontology, it would have to be based on a richer systematic analysis than the efforts so far have had under their belts, something like the compendium of works by Mario Bunge. Thanks, Wm On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:45 AM, John F Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Last week, I presented a 3-hour tutorial on Knowledge Design Patterns -- William Frank 413/376-8167 _________________________________________________________________ Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/ Config Subscr: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/ Unsubscribe: mailto:ontolog-forum-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ To join: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1J (01) |
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