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Re: [ontolog-forum] Deborah L. McGuinness, keynote speaker at OCAS!!!

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From: Alexander Garcia <alexgarciac@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 04:00:20 +0200
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The tittle somehow comes from  Deborah, I intentionally took it from  
her; It is the tittle of one publication, a book chapter she published  
about 8 or 10 years ago.  As for somebody in the audience being able  
to name one contemporary of Aristotle I assume there should be at  
least one person with such knowledge.    (01)

Sent from my iPhone    (02)

On Oct 23, 2011, at 11:51 PM, Patrick Durusau <patrick@xxxxxxxxxxx>  
wrote:    (03)

> John,
>
> All true but how many of the people in Deborah's audience could name  
> one
> contemporary of Aristotle?
>
> Deborah could and a few others.
>
> Old ideas are being repackaged and sold as new. Property graphs are  
> all
> the rage today when it was more than 20 years ago that relational
> databases were being implemented as hypergraphs.
>
> Let them have their fun.
>
> We are in no real danger of a new level of human understanding,
> democracy and universal peace. Never have been, never will be.
>
> Hope you are at the start of a great week!
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> On 10/23/2011 04:48 PM, John F. Sowa wrote:
>> On 10/23/2011 3:39 PM, Alexander Garcia Castro wrote:
>>>
>>>  *Deborah L. McGuinness, keynote speaker at OCAS!!!*
>>>
>>> At 9AM on the 24th Deborah will be opening the workshop, u cant miss
>>> it!!
>>
>> Deborah's talks are usually very good, and I would recommend it.
>>
>> But I have some quibbles about the title:
>>
>>   "Ontologies come of Age in the Semantic Web"
>>
>> Ontology is as old as Aristotle.  Cyc has been developing ontologies
>> since 1984, and they devoted over 1000 person years to writing them.
>> That would make ontologies considerably older than the Semantic Web.
>>
>> Furthermore, if you download OWL ontologies, you might notice that
>> the overwhelming majority of them don't use any logical features
>> beyond what can be stated more clearly and concisely in Aristotle's
>> original notation.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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