I agree with Chris. I find more substance in early Wittgenstein than later.
[And an aside: much of contemporary corpus-based computational linguistics
tends to explicitly side with later W.; perhaps not surprisingly, I tend to
disfavor such comp ling where e.g., morphology has become "stemming" and
meaning becomes purely collocational]. (01)
Personally, I think that without Frege and Russell, philosophy of language
would have been delayed many years. I think they pretty much founded the topic,
at least in the modern era, though I know Peirce's contributions weren't
recognized early, as John points out. (02)
John, I couldn't find the original posting of this message, nor the citation to
Spectre's work that Ferenc provided. Do you have this? (03)
[mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher Menzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] open knowledge (05)
On Nov 24, 2010, at 10:18 AM, John F. Sowa wrote:
> On 11/24/2010 1:47 AM, FERENC KOVACS wrote:
>> Yesterday I attended a very exciting talk on "open knowledge",
>> given by Levi Spectre, who does not seem to publish his very
>> convincing new ideas.
> Those are great ideas, but there's nothing new in them. Peirce
> and Whitehead are two pioneers in logic who were preaching them
> and publishing them a century ago.
> Frege and Russell were two logicians who were technically as
> good as Peirce and Whitehead, but they were hopelessly misguided
> about the nature of language and the way logic, language, and
> the world are related to one another.
> Wittgenstein was another brilliant logician who was suckered in
> by Frege and Russell, and he had to spend the second half of his
> life digging his way out of the hole they pushed him into. (06)
Unfortunately he dug himself a much darker and deeper hole of his own. By my
lights, W. was a lot closer to right in the Tractatus than he ever got in the
Investigations. And I think it's a mistake to lump Frege and Russell together.
Frege's views were far more subtle and sophisticated. (07)
I have no interest in defending any of these assertions. :-D (08)
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