Pavithra wrote:
> Dr. Sowa and Ed,
>
> The discussion about web based architecture and semantic web is
> interesting.
>
> But however, there is another architecture pattern that IBM had done
> some research on and rest of the industry got trained on... Service
> Oriented Architecture. For example, a google search and results
> follows SOA pattern.
>
> Since there are a whole lot of people out there that are implementing
> SOA, should n't we talk of integrating SOA and Semantic Web ??
>
SOA is predominantly about SOAP based RPCs. (01)
You can, and this already happens, take a SOAP RPC and treat it like a
DBMS Call Level Interface style of API. Net effect, you simply make an
EAV style of Linked Data graph from the output. This is something we
have done for a while via middleware [1] built into our Virtuoso product. (02)
"Semantic Web" is a moniker I stay away from since I believe its okay as
a project name i.e. "Semantic Web Project", but beyond that (i.e., when
you remove "Project") it's a classic misnomer :-)
>
> Or Does service oriented architecture pattern is an architectural
> pattern that support Semantic web already? ( I kind of have to think
> of use cases to answer this question..) or are they subset of each other?
>
> I felt SOA is the missing link here.. but I could be wrong ... but
> worth contemplating about..
>
SOA isn't missing, we just need SOA community to take time to understand
how they too can mesh their data globally via the EAV data model :-) (03)
Links: (04)
1.
http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/screencasts/virtuoso-rdf-middleware3.swf
-- animation demonstrating the mechanics of the Sponger re. production
of RDF based Linked Data Spaces
2. http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VirtSponger --
general information page (we can transform more than 30 APIs and
resources types into RDF based Linked meshes)
3. http://uriburner.com -- a public service that demonstrates the
Virtuoso Sponger Middleware's functionality behind a domain
4. http://uriburner.com/fct -- an interface that allows you to perform
Precision Search & Find via faceted navigation of EAV model . (05)
-- (06)
Regards, (07)
Kingsley Idehen
President & CEO
OpenLink Software
Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
Twitter/Identi.ca: kidehen (08)
>
> Pavithra Kenjige
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 3/30/10, John F. Sowa /<sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: John F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] AJAX vs. the Giant Global Graph
> To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 8:26 PM
>
> Ed,
>
> I think we agree on the most important issues.
>
> JFS>> As I've said many times, the SemWeb is too provincial. Other
> >> people have said that it suffers from a Not-Invented-Here syndrome.
> >> They've carved out a little niche and ignored what goes on in
> >> all the hardware and software that pump out web pages.
>
> EB> That is all true. But at the same time, they are trying to do
> "the
> > hard stuff", and that is something new...
>
> I agree, and I hope that all parties can reach a consensus on
> these issues.
>
> But the most important point I wanted to get across is the ending:
>
> JFS>> Bottom line: The semantics of the Web is intimately connected
> >> with the semantics of every system connected to the Web. You
> >> can't have a web-only semantics or a web-only science.
>
> EB> Amen.
> >
> > But the converse is not true. The semantics of systems connected to
> > the Web is not necessarily intimately connected to the "semantics of
> > the Web"; many looser couplings are possible.
>
> I agree that special purpose systems may agree with general-purpose
> ontologies on broad issues, but they may have unique details that are
> not shared or sharable.
>
> But I'm hopeful that some convergence for on techniques that can
> support
> better interoperability can be achieved.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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