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Re: [ontolog-forum] Set of Semantic Primitives (was Guo's blah blah blah

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From: Mike Bennett <mbennett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:28:26 +0100
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I totally agree with that.    (01)

Mike    (02)

John F. Sowa wrote:
> Mike and Pat,
>
> I'm not against the idea of having primitives.  But I am skeptical
> about throwing $30 million at an unproved, untested hypothesis.
>
> MB> Well I've just had a read of Pat's slides as per the link John
>  > posted, and I find I agree with a lot of what he is suggesting.
>
> As I said, Pat's slides are good, and they make a reasonable case
> for a study project.  But it is premature to propose a development
> project with 100 people when the following requirements are missing:
>
>   1. A well-defined set of primitives.
>
>   2. No working prototypes to demonstrate that an ontology based
>      on primitives would be useful to support interoperability.
>
>   3. Lots of evidence that large ontologies have not been been able
>      to produce a positive ROI (e.g., the $70+ million spent on Cyc
>      and the multibillions of yen spent on the Japanese EDR).
>
>   4. Practical evidence of successful companies that make independent
>      databases interoperate *without* using such an ontology.  For
>      example, OntologyWorks started with an upper-level ontology,
>      but threw it away because low-level domain-oriented ontologies
>      are much more useful.
>
> For these reasons, a low-budget research project is reasonable,
> but not a big-budget development project with 100 people and
> no clear specification of what they would do.
>
> John
>
>
>
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