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Re: [ontolog-forum] ANN: GoodRelations - The Web Ontology for E-Commerce

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From: "Martin Hepp (UniBW)" <martin.hepp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:56:04 +0200
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Martin Hepp (UniBW) wrote:
> Hi John:
>
> Thanks for the feedback! Two comments - first, the ontology comes from 
> a pretty non-commercial environment, even though us academics now do 
> marketing for their work as enterprises used to do ;-) Second, more 
> importantly, I completely agree that proper human-readable but precise 
> definitions of the intended meaning of an ontology element are 
> fundamental. In [1] I tried to summarize my criticism of looking at 
> the formal part of ontology specifications only, ignoring the other 
> modalities like text and multimedia for establishing and keeping 
> consensus about the intended meaning assigned to signs. In [2], I 
> tried to trace back the benefits from ontologies to six distinct 
> technical effects, of which excluding unwanted interpretations by 
> means of formal definition is just one. See also the attached 
> "Lighting Talk".
>
> In a nutshell, I feel that the ontology engineering community can 
> learn a lot from terminology research (namely the works by Eugen 
> Wuestner), and maybe ISO TC 37.
>
> By the way, I really enjoyed reading  your "Fads and Fallacies about 
> Logic".
>
> Best
>
> Martin
>
> 1.    Hepp, M.: Possible Ontologies: How Reality Constrains the 
> Development of Relevant Ontologies. IEEE Internet Computing 11 (2007) 
> 90-96
> 2.    Hepp, M.: Ontologies: State of the Art, Business Potential, and 
> Grand Challenges. In: Hepp, M., de Leenheer, P., de Moor, A., Sure, Y. 
> (eds.): Ontology Management: Semantic Web, Semantic Web Services, and 
> Business Applications. Springer, Berlin etc. (2007) 3-22
>
> Both are available for download at http://www.heppnetz.de/publications/
>
>
>
> John F. Sowa wrote:
>> Martin and Duane,
>>
>> I agree with Duane that this "appears to be a solid mid level ontology."
>> and "Licensing it as CC is also good for the community."
>>
>> When I first saw Martin's note, it looked like advertising, but since
>> the ontology is freely available, that makes it an open resource that
>> was produced by a commercial organization.
>>
>> I would also congratulate Martin & Co. for presenting an rdfs/owl
>> ontology in a linear form that is very readable:
>>
>>     http://www.heppnetz.de/ontologies/goodrelations/v1
>>
>> But what makes it so readable are all the English sentences marked
>> "rdfs:comment".  Those are clear, well-written sentences, which with
>> minor modifications could be stated in a controlled English.
>>
>> For some examples of controlled English and its relationship to
>> ordinary English and to Common Logic, see
>>
>>     http://www.jfsowa.com/talks/cl_sowa.pdf
>>
>> Specifying a type hierarchy in rdfs and owl is OK, but controlled
>> English can also be used to specify the information in the comments
>> in a form that is readable by both humans and machines.  For further
>> references, see Slide 28 of the cl_sowa.pdf talk.
>>
>> John Sowa
>>
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