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Re: [ontolog-forum] Reality Oriented Logic -- Discussion

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From: Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 10:49:02 -0700
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Thanks!    (01)


On 8/9/07 10:36 AM, "Jon Awbrey" <jawbrey@xxxxxxx> wrote:    (02)

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> DN = Duane Nickull
> 
> DN: I find the title of this thread a bit difficult to grok.
>     "Reality oriented Logic"?  As opposed to logic based
>     on non-reality?  I am not sure I understand what
>     the alternative is.  Can someone please explain?
>     Sorry if I missed the obvious.
> 
> Duane,
> 
> I am obviously just thrashing about, trying to cook up
> a cachey title for things that have obviously been said
> upwards of a gadshillion times over the passing centuries.
> 
> C.S. Peirce's name for it might have been "The Logic of Science",
> declaring his intention to integrate empirical and, er, rational
> reasoning, in the old sense of a conflict between empiricism and
> and rationalism --- Berkeley, Hume, Locke vs. Descartes, Leibniz,
> Spinoza, as the scrimmage is programmed for undergrad sportsfans.
> 
> What woke me from my dogmatic slumber this time around was
> some bells I heard ringing when I first stumbled into this
> Forum, a sense of which I tried to express in phraess like:
> 
> | discussing how realities impact on our representations,
> | which they strangely persist in doing no matter what
> | we say or think about it
> |
> | cached @ http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2007-August/003446.html
> 
> The less favored, more somnambulant alternative is for our logic to
> become nothing more than a vicious cycle of dogmatic syntax chasing
> its own tail without ever resting on more solid ground.  Some would
> let sleepy dogmas lie -- not I.
> 
> Jon Awbrey
> 
> CC: Arisbe List, Inquiry List, Ontolog Forum, Semantic Web List
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