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From: "Peter P. Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 17:03:56 -0700
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Fyi ... Susan Turnbull passed this along. Thought some of us might be 
interested.    (01)

I would also like to take the opportunity to welcome Susan, who just 
joined us her at the ontolog-forum as an observer. ... Welcome, Susan!    (02)

For those of us who will be at the face-to-face functions in Washington 
DC next week, we will definitely be meeting with Susan and her 
colleagues then. I'm really loking forward to an exciting week of 
workshops, meetings, and sharing experience with Communities of Practice 
that share somewhat similar vision, goals and passion.    (03)

Regards.  -ppy
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To: peter.yim@xxxxxxxx
From: susan.turnbull@xxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:18:05 -0400
Message-id: <OF5E52CE6C.5BF8C368-ON85256EC3.004E671E@xxxxxxx>
Hi Peter,
Just curious if any of your Ontolog members might be attending the
conference below on Regulatory Ontologies.
See below.  I received these messages as a member of OASIS egov TC.
Susan    (01)

Susan B. Turnbull
Senior Program Advisor
Office of Intergovernmental Solutions
Office of Citizen Services and Communications
US General Services Administration
p 202.501.6214
----- Forwarded by Susan B. Turnbull/XCI/CO/GSA/GOV on 06/30/2004 10:16 AM
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                    "Diane.Lewis@u       To:     
<John.Borras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'egov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'"     
                    <Diane.Lewis          <egov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>               (03)

                                         cc:     (bcc: Susan B. 
                    06/23/2004           Subject:     RE: [egov] USE OF WEB 
                    10:12 AM                                                        (04)

John,    (05)

having just attended a USG sponsored e-gov seminar titled expanding
electronic government....
i learned that over the counter government transactions will not disappear
in the near term.. though such actions will only  represent a small
percentage of citizen to individual government entities transactions.    (06)

I would suggest that at this juncture government service delivery via web
services is evolutionary not revolutionary even given the maturity of the
technology.   during the seminar discussion the themes of "trust" and
authentication came up.... there was a dynamic presentation regarding the
issuance and use of smart cards with biometric characteristics... citizen
understanding and acceptance of this "trust" mechanism is expected in the
next 5 or so years.    (07)

>From my perspective the populations that are governed have expectations of
web use in a static context... currently they do not approach the Internet
resources as a means of discovery of multiple service fulfillments....
instead citizens approach the web resources from a "pull" perspective.    (08)

Web services implementations in government will definitely guide the
citizen to a more proactive approach.  One of the presenters at the seminar
discussed the "push" emerging technologies and the personalization of the
citizen's electronic government experience.. through use of numerous
technologies including automatic virtual environments and the perceived
need by populations to have anytime, anywhere access to
information/services even using a wearable computers.    (09)

I support the idea of the TC producing a guidance document on Web Services
for Governments.   Through my experience in implementing one e-gov
transaction system and based on my recent study i would suggest that prior
to any government dictating all or a majority of services be delivered as
Web services... a thorough study, discussion and consensus on the themes of
Syndication and Rules Engine would be advised from my point of view as part
of any e-gov web service implementation planning.    (010)

For example, two OASIS colleagues just made me aware of the following
workshop (see below)... how do we provide guidance or address the common
vocabularies/category lists and models.... OR, can one or more government
Web Services implementations be achieved without reaching consensus or
standardization prior to syndication?    (011)

i think it is likely that each government entity could dictate a "set" of
web services that provide common "over the counter" govt services...  but i
view phase two of any government Web Service initiative to implement
government services of "discovery" and "knowledge sharing" facilities....
based on individual citizen and societal requirements rather than govt IT
imposed transactions.  thanks for the opportunity to comment.   diane    (012)

 The 2nd Workshop on
>>>                     Regulatory Ontologies
>>>     WWW: www.starlab.vub.ac.be/staff/mustafa/WORM_2004.htm
>>>    Part of the International Federated Conferences (OTM '04)
>>>         **Proceedings published by Springer LNCS **
>>>             October 25-29 2004 , Larnaca, Cyprus
>>>In many application areas (such as e-commerce, e-governments, content
>>>standardizations, legal information systems etc.), the modeling of
>>>regulatory and legal knowledge is a critical. Modeling and deploying
>>>regulatory knowledge has some specifics that differentiate it out from
>  >>other kinds of knowledge modeling: reasoning methods and application
>>>scenarios, the legal weight (/order) of regulations, parsing legal texts
>>>requires special semantic patterns, the sensitivity in cross-boarder
>>>regulations, etc. This workshop aims at bringing together academics,
>  >>researchers, professionals and industrial practitioners to discuss
>>>involved in modeling regulatory ontologies. Regulatory ontologies
>>>typically involve the description of rules and regulations within the
>>>social world. In particular, we seek original contributions on the
>>>following issues of interest, but not limited to:
>>>-Engineering of regulatory ontologies: conceptual analysis,
>>>    modularization and layering, reusability, evolution and dynamics,
>>>-Multilingual and terminological aspects of regulatory ontologies;
>>>-Models of legal reasoning (from ontological viewpoint): regulatory
>>>    compliance, case-based reasoning, reasoning with uncertainty, etc.
>>>-Sensitivity on and harmonization of regulations;
>>   >
>>>-Regulatory metadata and content standardization (e.g. legal-XML/LeXML,
>>>    ADR/ODR-XML,...);
>>>-Regulatory ontologies of: property rights, persons and organizations,
>>   >  legal procedures, contracts, legal causality, etc;
>>>-Task models for socially regulated activities;
>>>-Experiences with projects and applications involving regulatory
>>>    ontologies in legal knowledge based systems, legal information
>>>    e-governments, e-commerce;
>>>-Automated extraction of Information from regulatory documents.    (013)

-----Original Message-----
From: John.Borras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:21 AM
To: egov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [egov] USE OF WEB SERVICES
Importance: Low    (014)

Now that Web Services seem to have reached a good level of maturity we
here in the UK are considering when and how we should deploy them to
support our e-government service delivery plans.  For example should our
future architecture dictate that everything be deployed as a WS or is it a
case of WS are more appropriate for different types of services.  A
colleague of ours has produced the attached discussion document which
attempts to answer this question and I'd welcome your views on this and
any experience you already have of deploying WS for Gov applications.    (015)

There may be some value in the TC producing a guidance  document on this
for wider consumption.  What do you think?    (016)

Within Europe it may be necessary to agree on this if we are to support
the concept of joined-up pan-European services so such a document might be
valuable input to deliberations in Brussels.    (017)

John    (018)

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