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From: "Schuldt, Ron L" <ron.l.schuldt@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:32:35 -0700
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All,    (01)

I concur with Nenad's suggested title. I believe it captures the
fundamental requirement for semantics integration.    (02)

I also encourage this group to read the article recently published on
ebXML Forum -- http://www.ebxmlforum.org/articles/ebFor_20040306.html
The article highlights a candidate ontology for the e-business "payload"
standards community that needs to be considered.    (03)

Ron Schuldt
Senior Staff Systems Architect
Lockheed Martin Enterprise Information Systems
11757 W. Ken Caryl Ave.
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ron.l.schuldt@xxxxxxxx    (04)


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Nenad Ivezic
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 6:24 AM
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Subject: RE: [ontolog-forum] Re: Modeling/formalizing representation of
Core Component Types    (05)


Hi Peter:    (06)

I am copying on this message potentially interested parties at NIST and
OAG to consider participating in this new effort.  I suggest this title    (07)

An Ontological Basis for ebXML Core Component Types    (08)

As we discussed, a wide range of participation, particularly from the
standards community that implemented the core component types would be
very critical.    (09)

Thanks,    (010)

- Nenad    (011)



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[mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Yim
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:46 PM
To: ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Re: Modeling/formalizing representation of
Core Component Types    (012)

Thanks to Pat Cassidy, Kurt Conrad, Nenad Ivezic, Tim McGrath, Bo 
Newman, Adam Pease & Peter Yim who participated (and to Mark Crawford, 
Monica Martin & Sue Probert who sent in their regrets - believe 
they're all in Bonn now at the UN/CEFACT face-to-face meeting), we had 
a most productive conference call, that lasted a little over 2 hours.    (013)

The proceedings is captured on at meeting wiki page at:
  http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2004_03_11_CCT    (014)

We all agreed that there is good potential for using ontological 
engineering methodologies to make a contribution here. Those at the 
call decided to start a task force and a mini project to look further 
into the matter. We will try to engage representatives from multiple 
standards body that are involved, and will aim at producing a report 
(over the next 3 months) on findings and recommendations on the 
modeling/formalizing representation of the ebXML Core Component Types.    (015)

All: please continue the discourse on this thread. I'll be setting up 
a project page on the wiki for this (shortly) too.    (016)

Thanks & regards.  -ppy
--    (017)


Peter Yim wrote Mon, 08 Mar 2004 12:04:55 -0800:    (018)

> The subject is now confirmed.
> 
> Time of call is: slot (d) Thu 11-Mar-2004 4:00pm California time.
Assume 
> approx 1.5~2.0 hours. 
>
<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=11&month=3&yea
r=2004&hour=16&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 
> 
>  >
> 
> Please refer to the following wiki page to get ready for the call (the    (019)

> same page will be used during the call too):
>
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2004_03_11_CCT
> 
> RSVP if you have not already done so.
> 
> Regards.  -ppy
> -- 
> 
> Peter Yim wrote Wed, 03 Mar 2004 13:52:57 -0800:
> 
>> Based on the responses received, we are NOT going to have this call 
>> tomorrow -- i.e. time slot (a): Thu 04-Mar-2004 3:00pm California
time.
>>
>> Let's aim at doing it at time slot (d) Thu 11-Mar-2004 4:00pm 
>> California time. Assume approx 1.5~2.0 hours for the call. I'd still 
>> need responses from those who will be joining us (at this time slot.)    (020)

>> I'll re-confirm once I've received enough responses.
>>
>> Thanks.  -ppy
>> -- 
>>
>> Peter Yim wrote Wed, 03 Mar 2004 06:24:47 -0800:
>>
>>> Thank you, Pat, Sue and Tim for the quick response.
>>>
>>> Tim helped narrow it down to two immediate option. I'd personally 
>>> prefer (a), but then (because of the immediacy) we would need to 
>>> determine very quickly on whether or not that is viable. If we can't    (021)

>>> make (a), I'd still hope we do it on (d).
>>>
>>>  >> (a) Thu 04-Mar-2004 3:00pm California time (which would be 11 pm
in
>>>  >> London; 7 am in West Australia, and 6 pm in New Jersey)
>>>  >> 
>>>
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=4&month=3&year=
2004&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 
>>>
>>>  >>
>>>  >> (d) Thu 11-Mar-2004 4:00pm California time
>>>  >> 
>>>
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=11&month=3&year
=2004&hour=16&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It would be wonderful if we can hear from Adam, Kurt, Bill, Monica, 
>>> Cecelia, Bo, Leo, (I would have included Monica and Bob too, but I 
>>> know they are both out of the country) and anyone else who plan to 
>>> participate, if you could make it to (a), if we do it then; and, 
>>> would time slot (d) be ok with you.
>>>
>>> URGENT: I'd need to hear back within the next 7 hours (from the time    (022)

>>> of this message), and if (a) is viable, I'll make the conference
call 
>>> reservations, and inform everyone within an hour of that closing
time.
>>>
>>> Thanks.  -ppy
>>> -- 
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim McGrath wrote Wed, 03 Mar 2004 15:33:05 +0800:
>>>
>>>> not surprisingly i prefer option (d) - next friday morning to me.  
>>>> but option (a) is OK if that is too far away.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>> Sue Probert wrote Wed, 3 Mar 2004 00:08:06 -0000:
>>>  > Hi Peter
>>>  >
>>>  > I am sorry but I cannot make any calls until mid March at the
very
>>>  > earliest due to meeting commitments etc.
>>>  >
>>>  > regards
>>>  >
>>>  > Sue
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>> Patrick Cassidy wrote Tue, 02 Mar 2004 19:06:59 -0500:
>>>
>>>  > Peter --
>>>  >   I can participate in any of those time slots.
>>>  >
>>>  >    Pat
>>>  > ----------------
>>>
>>>
>>>> Peter Yim wrote Tue, 02 Mar 2004 11:22:59 -0800:
>>>>
>>>>> Sue & Tim,
>>>>>
>>>>> Further to our discussion at the ubl-lcsc call this morning and 
>>>>> earlier exchanges on the forum (ref. 
>>>>>
http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=%2Bsubject%3Amod
eling+core+component+types&submit=Search%21&idxname=ontolog-forum&max=10
&result=normal&sort=date%3Alate), 
>>>>> I'd liked to schedule a conference call where either or both of
you 
>>>>> (in the same or a different session) bring those of us working on 
>>>>> the ubl-ontology project, up to speed by providing context, status    (023)

>>>>> and semantics for Core Component Types -- as a necessary step 
>>>>> towards our developing an ontology on the CCT's  other CC's and 
>>>>> eventually UBL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our first preference, in terms of timing, would be during our 
>>>>> regular Thursday [ontolog] conference calls which starts 10:30am 
>>>>> California time. (Tim did, and rightfully so, indicated that this 
>>>>> is obviously not a good time for someone in West Australia,
because 
>>>>> that is 2:30am there.)
>>>>>
>>>>> This is important enough that I, for one, am open to all options.
I 
>>>>> would hope to see this happen sooner, rather than later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Therefore, to get the ball rolling, let me start by suggesting a 
>>>>> few time slots. Then will each of you, Sue and Tim, as well as 
>>>>> interested members of the ubl-ontology team and the ontolog 
>>>>> community, come back and indicate, which (hopefully all) of those 
>>>>> slots would work for you. If none would, please give us 2 or 3 
>>>>> slots in return, so that we can start over. Here goes (although 
>>>>> given our geographic distribution, there is really no "ideal"
time):
>>>>>
>>>>> (a) Thu 04-Mar-2004 3:00pm California time (which would be 11 pm
in 
>>>>> London; 7 am in West Australia, and 6 pm in New Jersey)
>>>>>
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=4&month=3&year=
2004&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (b) Thu 11-Mar-2004 2:00pm California time
>>>>>
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=11&month=3&year
=2004&hour=14&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (c) Thu 11-Mar-2004 3:00pm California time
>>>>>
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=11&month=3&year
=2004&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (d) Thu 11-Mar-2004 4:00pm California time
>>>>>
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=11&month=3&year
=2004&hour=16&min=0&sec=0&p1=224 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is important to our ubl-ontology work. Ontolog participants, 
>>>>> please make your best attempt to participate, and please so 
>>>>> indicate, in order that we can make our best effort to accomodate 
>>>>> everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks & regards.  -ppy
>>>>> -- 
> 
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