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To: "Obrst,Leo J." <LOBRST@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Rex Brooks <rexb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Bob Smith <Bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: conrad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "[ontolog-admin]" <ontolog-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Peter P. Yim" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 07:30:56 -0700
Message-id: <4305ED20.6010301@xxxxxxxx>
Thanks for the input, Leo.    (01)

 >Are we still happy with the current wording?    (02)

[ppy]  I am.    (03)


 > Maybe we should rebroadcast the IP policy statement
 >  more generally?    (04)

[ppy] Yes, indeed. This conversation is the lead-up to that post, 
which I hope to make to the [ontolog-forum] list.    (05)

Regards.  =ppy
--    (06)


Obrst,Leo J. wrote Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:25:01 -0400:
> This sounds fine with me, Peter, since we want to underscore Ontolog's
> openness but yet allow members to gain in many ways. Maybe we should
> rebroadcast the IP policy statement more generally? Are we still happy
> with the current wording?
> 
> Thanks,
> Leo     (07)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter P. Yim [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 12:31 PM
> To: Bob Smith; 'Rex Brooks'; conrad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Obrst,Leo J.
> Cc: '[ontolog-admin]'
> Subject: Re: Writing/Editing the Summary Report of the Aug. 25, Health
> Informatics Panel Discussion
> 
> Thanks, Bob.
> 
> On re-read ... I noticed minor errata which I am updating (and 
> re-posting) as below:
> 
> //
>  > [RexB] I also have a question for you and Peter, whom I am
>  > copying, could I shop this to media, for no remuneration?
> 
> [ppy] my take: as far as Ontolog is concerned, its IPR policy
> (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32) 
> should rule.
> 
> That said, I personally do want to see that community members do 
> end up 'gaining' (both intellectually, opportunistically, 
> commercially, financially, ...) from their engagement with this 
> CoP -- I trust that (to provide continuous value to its 
> constituency) being the only way the CoP can be sustainable.
> 
> That said, may I suggest that we have (a) an open, community 
> sanctioned summary report of the 8/25 session that will be 
> published by Ontolog, goes into its archives, gets used as the 
> community submission to the Fed HIT Conference, ...etc. But then, 
> since authors actually hold the copyrights (not Ontolog ... 
> Ontolog just stipulates that they should carry an open content 
> license), you guys could (b) re-factor that and shop another, or 
> multiple articles elsewhere (gratis, or for remuneration, as you 
> see fit) as long as proper attributions are made (to Ontolog and 
> the other contributors, namely Ontolog, the panelists, and those 
> participating in the discussion and discourse.)
> 
> How does that sound?
> 
> [Maybe we should bounce this off each other a bit, and then find 
> a way to post this (in its reiterated form) to the forum as a 
> guideline for future community work products.]
> 
> Cheers.  =ppy
> //
> 
> =ppy
> --
> 
> 
> Bob Smith wrote Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:17:46 -0700:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>Peter, thanks for verbalizing the IP Chain issue in a context of many
>>continuing versions of these concepts.
>>
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Bob
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Peter P. Yim [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxx] 
>>Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 9:02 AM
>>To: Rex Brooks; conrad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Cc: [ontolog-admin]; Leo Obrst; Bob Smith
>>Subject: Re: Writing/Editing the Summary Report of the Aug. 25, Health
>>Informatics Panel Discussion
>>
>> > [RexB] I also have a question for you and Peter, whom I am  >
> 
> copying,
> 
>>could I shop this to media, for no remuneration?
>>
>>[ppy] my take: as far as Ontolog is concerned, its IPR policy
>>(ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32)
>>should rule.
>>
>>That said, I personally do want to see that community members do end
> 
> up
> 
>>'gaining (both intellectually, opportunistically, commercially,
> 
> financially,
> 
>>...) from their engagement with this CoP -- I trust that (to provide
>>continuous value to its
>>constituency) being the only way the CoP can be sustainable.
>>
>>That said, may I suggest that we have (a) an open, community
> 
> sanctioned
> 
>>summary report of the 8/25 session that will be published by Ontolog,
> 
> goes
> 
>>into its archives, gets used as the community submission to the Fed
> 
> HIT
> 
>>Conference, ...etc. But then, since authors actually hold the
> 
> copyrights
> 
>>(not Ontolog ... 
>>Ontolog just stipulates that they should carry an open content
> 
> license), you
> 
>>guys could re-factor that and shop it elsewhere (gratis, or for
>>remuneration, as you see fit) as long as proper attributed is made (to
>>Ontolog and the other contributors, namely Ontolog, the panelists, and
> 
> those
> 
>>participating in the discussion and discourse.)
>>
>>How does that sound?
>>[Maybe we should bounce this off each other a bit, and then find a way
> 
> to
> 
>>post this (in its reiterated form) to the forum as a guideline for
> 
> future
> 
>>community work products.]
>>
>>Cheers.  =ppy
>>
>>P.S. I'm routing this thread also to Leo (co-convener), Bob (planning
> 
> team)
> 
>>and [ontolog-admin] (open archive) to solicit further comments and a
> 
> record
> 
>>of this very useful dialog.  =ppy
>>--
>>
>>
>>Rex Brooks wrote Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:04:54 -0700:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Kurt,
>>>
>>>I wanted to take advantage of this brief window between meetings of 
>>>TCs which are finali zing specifications for public review to ask if 
>>>you would be so kind as to take on the task of writing and/or editing 
>>>a Summary Report of the Health Informatics Panel Discussion I am 
>>>moderating on Aug. 25, 2005?
>>>
>>>I understand that you are the chief Ontolog scribe, so to speak, or 
>>>historian, or perhaps managing editor might be the more accurate term.
>>>Regardless, the job of preparing and moderating is more than 
>>>sufficient for my needs (small joke), This is especially so since I am
> 
> 
>>>on the spot to produce a pilot that is taking its not-so-merry time 
>>>getting to the point where I can actually start useful work, with less
> 
> 
>>>than a month, or perhaps a bit more if it misses its first target date
> 
> 
>>>of Sept. 14, and slips to Sept. 23.
>>>
>>>So, if you can do that, I would greatly appreciate it.
>>>
>>>I also have a question for you and Peter, whom I am copying, could I 
>>>shop this to media, for no remuneration?
>>>
>>>I would like to get some publicity for these issues and I specifically
> 
> 
>>>am thinking about Federal Computer Week and Washington Technology.
>>>
>>>Ciao,
>>>Rex
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
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